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In Reply to: RE: The result of ripping are files... posted by AbeCollins on December 16, 2014 at 10:21:18
Please read my reply to fmak again, and in the context of the top level OP.
I read both it and the OP carefully. My post was essentially a shot at answering fmak's question as you IMO hadn't.
In this case the bits ARE just bits on the computer. Some bits aren't more 'square' than others. If the files are the same, that's it, end of story.
Thank you. I may be Scotch but, deceptive though appearances may be, I'm not completely stupid and, besides, made much the same point as yours at the end of my post. Please read my reply to fmak again.
Nonetheless, audioengr, SBGK and others have reported audible differences between music data that are, by all accounts, identical. You can either dismiss them as self-deceiving nincompoops, patronise them by misusing terms such as "placebo" or "psychological bias" or whatever the mot de jour happens to be and all the usual biz or you can ask yourself if there might not just perhaps be some phenomenon at work that gives competent and experienced listeners pause for thought. After all, one is a respected equipment designer, the other has written a top-notch music player. It's not unreasonable to assume that they just might have a point.
The unexpected, the chink in what we all know to be flawless armour is, after all, how science progresses. Is there some property of the format or some aspect of the data handling that has been overlooked? It's not so many years ago that the CD was "perfect sound forever" and a mild-mannered Englishman banging on about "jitter" could safely be laughed out of court.
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What does this mean? Checksums? 1000 people with computers and ripping software that are different?
Quality indicators are not indicative if they are not transparently defined and tested.
The sad thing for me are flat earthers who cannot accept a different horizon.
I cannot help but wonder if you are a transplanted Angle?!!! But with your surname I know better.
None of this is new. On the cMP forum there was talk of differing sound from different drives and this was spoken even before cMP. Remember the cult of PLEXTOR? And then there was that drive recommended by the dBpoweramp guy - a USB drive that looked like it used a notebook drive within its tiny plastic case.
So many variables, so many possibilities ...
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