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In Reply to: RE: iTunes users, where are your booklet files? posted by mwheelerk on November 04, 2014 at 18:49:19
Given your experience with iTunes, how do you like JRiver for Mac and JRemote? Was it a difficult transition and learning curve or an instant 'ah ha' moment wishing you had done it sooner? Well, I guess you couldn't have done too much sooner since JRiver for Mac is fairly new. Thanks.
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I like it a lot but in all truth it took me a couple of months of on again off again effort to get comfortable with it. Its a tool with massive capabilities beyond iTunes. I do not use some of the more advanced (to me)features but for organizing and playback of my library it is really good. There is a couple of simplistic things I still like about iTunes but all in all I think JRiver is a better tool. Regarding JRemote it is so much better than the Apple Remote app in every way it makes the use of JRiver even more enjoyable. At this point after about a year of commitment to JRIver its at least 95% of my listening but every now and then I still open up iTunes with Audivrana and give it a spin.
Edits: 11/04/14
- Was JRiver able to use your existing iTunes Library structure, folder layout, metadata, album art, etc?
- Do you 'import' it into JRiver or just point JRiver to the Library?
- Once set up, was the iTunes Library fairly intact or did you have to 'fix' little issues and metadata for JRiver?
Thanks again.
To be clear there is an Import function for JRiver but it is really creating its own database of your library from the files you have designated and not moving files or folders in any way.And finally I do not recall having to fix anything in the JRiver file that occurred during the initial setup. I have discovered some initial metadata errors while using JRiver that predate JRiver but those were simple tag edits that I had noticed before for things like punctuation, capitalization or spelling etc. There was no experience of missing files or folders or files or folders in the wrong order or location.
Edits: 11/05/14
Yes, I use the exact same file path and folder structure created and managed originally created and managed by iTunes so each of the paths end with "iTunes Media> Music". I use this file path for iTunes standalone, iTunes integrated mode with Audivrana, Audivrana 2.0 with its own library management along with JRiver and in the past with Pure Music.My library is all AIFF files. I have had no issues with metadata between JRiver or iTunes or Audivrana for my existing files. For new files I use XLD to import and I do basic metadata corrections or additions there and add the artwork which embeds it. My XLD is set up to put the files into iTunes which then places them in the file/folder structure that JRiver and Audivrana are pointed to.
The initial import of JRiver and especially Audivrana (2.0) can take awhile depending on your size of library. JRiver has an Auto Import feature so that when I open it it will search the file/folder path designated and update any changes or additions. It is lightning fast. As I said previously I do not use iTunes or Audivrana much any more. Changes in iTunes with XLD are immediate. Audivrana 2.0 on the other hand is very sluggish.
One thing I really like is that if I do metadata additions with XLD and recently I have been playing with dbPoweramp for Mac for ripping those will show up in all of the softwares I use. Even better if I am making metadata changes or updating artwork I can do those tags in either iTunes or JRiver and the changes will show in both of them. While I find the simplicity of iTunes to change metadata helpful, it is just a little easier for me visually, JRiver is a much more extensive and robots metadata tool.
Edits: 11/05/14
Thanks for the very detailed responses. It seems like your transition was fairly smooth and worth the learning curve.
Your comments are encouraging as I am contemplating trying something other than iTunes for Library management but it has to easily handle thousands of music files (mostly AIFF & ALAC) and it MUST HAVE excellent remote control capability via iPad or iPhone as that's how I normally control playback from across the room.
I've been looking at the JRemote website as well. Thanks!
My files are all AIFF totally 21,000+ songs/1900+ albums except for 3 DSF albums.
I cannot recommend JRemote enough. The JRiver preferences are extensive in comparison to iTunes. There is no "user manual" as they use the JRiver Wiki which might be the single least liked thing about JRiver. I find it difficult to navigate. You may be a more experienced computer/software user than I but I do recommend the proverbial walk before you run. If you decide to try I would be willing to communicate offline on my JRiver Preference settings through sharing screen shots. There is also a JRiver For Mac forum with helpful answers.
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