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In Reply to: RE: How would you characterize posted by Sprezza Tura on October 28, 2014 at 10:15:45
You may have just convinced me to sell the NIB unit and acquire one. :)
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$449. Unreal bargain.It can be configured to work with LMS too.
I suggest contacting Jesus @ Sonore, the dealer. He also helped write the O/S.
I communicated with him on forums and I was impressed with his very neutral responses. Again, just to reiterate, it does ethernet only.
It can be configured to work with LMS too.
Since I plan to continue using the second unit in the garage, I would use it as another LMS player.
Again, just to reiterate, it does ethernet only.
That's the way the upstairs SBT is run today. CAT6--> Touch w/linear power supply--> DAC7 via USB.
My objective would solely be to improve sound quality.
Ok. If you do go for it, please report your findings. There are many here who doubt the SBT can be bettered without spending thousands.
It is true there is nothing better at its original price, but spending a bit more, and in the case of the MiND, $1300, will get you better sound.
I still consider the SBT to be a game changer.
While I realize there's an optional battery power supply available, what type is provided with the unit?
An external wal wart.
Another option is the iFi iUSB between the SOtM and the DAC. It is supposed to isolate the source from the DAC. Thinking of trying it.
Yuk.
Did you ever use a linear with your Touch players? I use them with both of mine and they definitely provide more refinement from the mids up. It clears a bit of false brightness with the wart.
The Touch, with its display, is going to be far noisier than the SOtM.
You can use a number of power supplies with it, just like the Touch.
Also, plugging the wal wart into a conditioner with the rest of the system pays huge dividends. Sounds good to me, Although I will down the road see about the XPS.
you never used a linear power supply with your SBTs. Correct?
actually, I did..with one SBT, the Channels Islands Audio xps.
the overall noise level?
It made the treble much more delicate with more subtle layering overall.
Definitely way more than worth the $250 I paid as far as the improvement.
for detailing your experience. :)
I am sure you know that you can shut off the display of the touch and various other things. (The soundcheck mods)?
Yes, I know. But those mods are a bit complicated. I use the EDO, which disables the analog outputs, an even bigger improvement than killing the screen, and allows for 192 Khz streaming.
That is an advanced option with any Touch. You choose what to see when unit is off and what to see when unit is on.
Yes. I just kept the screens on. I used it as a clock.
I have just put a Wyred4sound Remedy reclocker on my SBT and it's like having a new transport. Really good.
So, I can either replace the unit for $450 with the SOtM (and later buy a better power supply) or invest $399 (more than I paid for the Touch) to improve it.
Now I wish I were an audio reviewer and could get samples of each to compare!
Thanks for providing yet another approach to improving the performance.
Clocking is only one issue..there is so much more that goes into making one of these units sound great. An outboard reclocker involves another digital cable and power supply. Never a good thing.
An outboard reclocker involves another digital cable and power supply. Never a good thing.
There appears to be a difference of opinion on that matter by more than one individual.
Clocking is obviously important but so is a clean digital path and output.
I am also using EDO. TDak Power Supply., External DAC, Sound Check Mods. I have 114db Oris Horns and I cannot detect any 'noise', so I wondering if this would be any upgrade for me??
Sounds like a good set up.
By "noise" I do not mean any external noise like tube rush or a humming power supply. I can't think of a single source that actually makes noise.
The noise I refer to is the INTERNAL noise inside the unit possibly caused by cross talk, EMI/RFI etc, which will then translate to a sort of subtle glaze on the music, especially in the highs.
It makes me chuckle when reviewers talk about "jet black backgrounds". Even an iPod has black backgrounds.
I have been following this thread, but I am confused how this ifi iUSB hooks up? Do you still use the wall wart with the SoTm Unit? Does the ifi iUSB have its own power supply?
I don't have one but from the numerous reviews I have read you run a USB cable from the source to the iUSB, then a USB cable out to your DAC.
It has its own walwart supply. The secret weapon it seems is an isolating circuit they call "Isoground" I believe.
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