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In Reply to: RE: The nameless 'engineer' 's piece posted by Mercman on October 24, 2014 at 10:36:50
Fair enough.But then would ask the question, why did you pack it up? You have had no problem in the past spending money on all sorts of tranquility bases, power products, DACs, etc.
Secondly, Shunyata has been around, which means they are not selling snake oil, but I won't do business with a company that churns their product line as frequently as they do.
They have introduced no less 6 or 7 cable lines in the last three years, with products appearing and disappearing in their line up, with a throw it against the wall and see what sticks approach. IMO, and that is all it is, my opinion, 50% of the appeal of their products is in the physical presentation. Those garden hose power cables impress insecure audiophiles to no end.
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OK, you are right about Shunyata updating constantly. But that is their business decision.
And yes, I am looking into acquiring the DPC-6. Funny thing about reviewing; I don't feel compelled to purchase everything I like. But I do like the DPC-6.
I always pack the stuff up to get it out of the house. Keeps the wife happy. But when I really miss a product, then I reconsider.
Ok, well I enjoyed your reply. My wife never ever complains about hifi bless her soul unless their are boxes laying around.
Shunyata as a private business in entitled to do what ever they like, charge what ever prices they like, and churn product lines to their hearts content. No argument there.
I see it as abuse of the customer base, and not standing behind products. It seems to be this is a classic example of a sales cycle on a product dying out then put something new out to reignite sales. There are no new cable design breakthroughs every 6 months.
Although Fmak's views are a bit extreme, he has a point in that if it takes thousands of dollars of add on products, and lets be clear, no musical signals pass through these units, something has gone wrong with the hobby. The last picture I saw of your system was very Rube Goldberg with all the add ons. Its your system, don't get me wrong, but I have aimed for zen like simplicity and have achieved it IMO.
It's not a question of addons and cost, but a question of getting basics right prior to evaluating and using an add on.
Otherwise you never know what it is that is enhancing (or better changing)SQ.
I have expensive add ons, but only after doing my best to have the 'best' mains supply etc. in the system. For example, I use an isolation transformer, custom made and designed by myself, before even feeding a regenerator or isolation filter. Then I listen and measure, with and without. This is why I know that mains harmonic distortions are BAD.
"It's not a question of addons and cost, but a question of getting basics right prior to evaluating and using an add on."
Have to agree.
Would that you were right...
Rick
It's not a question of musical signals passing thru but a case of harmonic and intermodulation signals passing to and from the mains into the signal path
"It's not a question of musical signals passing thru but a case of harmonic and intermodulation signals passing to and from the mains into the signal path"
Well... I'm not convinced of that. While I agree that power harmonics are often problematic I believe that having the power system as a partial signal path is also.
However, what I was speaking to in this case is that at the least the signal modulates the power input because it's output is encoded via varying energy delivery.
Rick
2.3GHz Satellite connected to mains degrades sound; 6% thd in London on the mains degrades sound; pulling broadband modem from mains improves sound.
In my 3 systems.
Oh I agree with you Fred, I suspect most of our gear has an insufficient PSSR to fend off today's environment. Maybe even yesterday's but at least at my place the line now looks gross. I'll do a recheck one of these day as it's been a few years since I eyeballed it but I doubt it's improved... I'll send send you a picture but with adequate warning that you can avoid looking at it near mealtime. Here in the Wild West, the land of entrepreneurs, loose laws and capacitor input power supplies, we all want our's off the top...
But my point was that it's impossible to not add to the misery with our stereos. Any device whose power requirements fluxuate with a signal will modulate the power input. "Voltage sources" are an ideal, a limit, not something that really exists except by definition. In addition actual baseband signals also couple along the same paths causing no end of grief.
I think line-powered audio gear has an especially tough row to hoe because the power fundamental and all of it's significant harmonics are in-band. And the users happen to be equipped with very keen sensors that can detect oddities down into the noise floor if they are uncorrelated with the signal.
But it's a lot better hobby than watching football on TV...
Rick
I will be reviewing another power conditioner next. I have discovered that "power" is a very real issue with our components. I wish some of the manufacturers of our gear would take it more seriously.
As for my system, the Synergistic Transporter with all its leads for the active shields always draws comments. But it sounds very good and I'm having fun. So what the heck.
This reminds me of my former Levinson gear; the 33H amps and 32 preamp. The 32 preamp had its own DC power re-generator. The 33H also had a power re-generator for the voltage gain boards. They took power very seriously in those days.
They should nowadays.
Some of my posts have been a result of 'expert inmates' saying here that all one needs is a MAC Mini and the 'right' software for audio nirvana. They actually know better and this is reflected in some of their products.
Totally different story at Computer Audiophile.
I have just bought a Teradak ATX linear thru their group buy. Saves the hassle of cabling up myself and I am quite confident that I can improve on their ripple specs.
Like I stated in my review, many people get used to listening with this noise and accept it.
Enjoy your new purchase.
No, many people get used to listening to MUSIC, and accept it. Looking for problems is what makes audiophiles the most miserable creatures.
''many people get used to listening with this noise and accept it.''
This is no longer high resolution music, just a money dump.
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