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In Reply to: RE: Cannot set up a Computer for audio - get a network streamer posted by Sprezza Tura on October 16, 2014 at 14:29:59
You have an Ethernet cable up to your iPad Mini and to your stream?
Shielded? Cat 5, 6 or 7?
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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UPnP (Universal Plug "n" Play) is a set of protocols that allows a streamer Center to access music files that are stored on a Network Attached Storage device (NAS), or other UPnP compatible music server, to be quickly and easily selected and played.
Essentially the server announces its availability on your home Ethernet network that it can be uses as a renderer (playback device) for music stored on a UPnP-capable server. A control point device (iPad, iPhone, Android tablet, etc) is used to select the streamer as a renderer together with a NAS as a server. The control point device requires an app like PlugPlayer or other control point software for browsing and playlist control.
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Funny for not knowing about networks I have three systems being fed Redbook, 96 Khz, 192 Khz, and DSD music files along with metadata with one set of hard drives.
"Funny for not knowing about networks I have three systems being fed Redbook, 96 Khz, 192 Khz, and DSD music files along with metadata with one set of hard drives."
Making a bunch of computers apparently work together is not the same thing as understanding in detail how they actually work or being able to diagnose which device is malfunctioning when they fail to work. These taska include the ability to understand the specifications on which the network is based.
And here, I'm just talking in the "bits are bits" sense. If you start going beyond this mid-fi level of sound quality then you are in an even more difficult world which no one has yet mastered.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
I'm in total agreement with you.
You would be surprised, and I sweat it is true, I know high level IT managers that can't figure out how to get music files on their computers to their stereos via network.
Tony I do not think he understands how a network really works. His streamer is on the network it is not an endpoint as you mentioned can be done with HQplayer, LMS, or with a JPlay two computer setup.regards
Bob
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Funny, I have PCM files up to 192 Khz and DSD files streaming to three separate systems with one set of hard drives. No dropouts, stuttering, or MIA devices. EVER.I thought the way UPnP works is common knowledge.
I don't want to know anything. I just want my music. And I have it in spades.
As I said, you are concerned with the nuts and bolts far more than the enjoyment.
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"I don't want to know anything."
OK :)
Tony....do you not understand the iPad simply sends commands to the server software which controls playback on the streamer?Why do you think the iPad or any control device has some direct connection to the streamer. They do not directly communicate in any way.
I'm beside myself.
In NO way does WiFi touch my audio files. My NAS (computer with attached drives) is wired with CAT7, my streamers are wired with CAT7. The control point (tablet/phone) is on WiFi. Since everything is on the same network, the iPad is nothing but a remote control, but it DOES not send direct commands to the streamer, nor does it send it files to play.
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Thank you for answering my question.
The control device may still affect the sound quality of your audio system. It may do so through its direct radiation, through its power connections (if not on battery) or through its Ethernet cables (even if cat 7 shielded). The test for this is to move the control device out of the room, say right next to the computer that it is controlling. Alternatively, if your Ethernet cable is long enough, you can try moving the control device right next to the audio stack and see what effect this has.
It is not a question of "touching files". The problem is not the "touching" of bits that makes them somehow polluted. The problem comes from pervasive noise from digital circuitry polluting sensitive analog components. It doesn't really matter if a device "touches" the bits or not, provided they are just digital data. On the other hand, if a device "touches" an SPDIF signal or any other "digital" signal that contains audio timing information it is touching more than just the bits.
It is not a matter of theorizing how, or how not, some piece of digital gear may degrade sound quality. It is a matter of conducting listening tests to see what matters and what does not in a particular system.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Tony, I am here to enjoy my life. I simply cannot be bothered with phantom gremlins, real or imagined.
Air conditioning may degrade the sound but I am not going to sit in a puddle of sweat to enjoy music.
I am going to have my iPad at my listening position at all times unless I am listening to a full album then I put it somewhere else simply because I don't want to knock it over.
BTW, I said I was beside myself because I know you are far more erudite than myself....no sarcasm there.
"BTW, I said I was beside myself"
Do you both take turns sitting in the sweet spot during your listing sessions? ;)
Nah, I hog it....his taste in music sucks,
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