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In Reply to: RE: You keep moving the goal posts posted by Bob_C on August 30, 2014 at 22:05:43
One, this is my PC system. Can you comprehend that? It's in the den. It is not the "big rig." Sorry, I'm not going to post anything more because I don't feel comfortable opening up my private life to the internet.
Two, if you don't think my PC system is revealing, then you don't know what you are talking about. I'm not saying the little JBLs are the be all and end all of speakers, but they are an astonishingly good value for how inexpensive they are. I've had them for nearly a year now and sitting in the near field I'm still consistently impressed at the details they can bring out. They are like headphones that throw a miniature sound stage on top of my desk. They could well be all the stereo a non-inmate would ever need.
Three, this is why I resisted posting a system in the first place. I post my PC system and you say it's not good enough. If I posted my big rig you would say that my ears must not be good enough. The real issue is my imagination is not good enough to allow me to "perceive" changes that don't exist in reality.
JE
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Tell you what - why don't you take your worthless crap, big and small, and get the f... outta here? There's still free registration open at Hydrogen Audio.
simply because a foul-mouthed little piss-ant like you keeps calling me names, you have sadly mistaken my character.
JE
I have actually have listened to a pair and the speakers are not bad, especially for the price. The wave guide does some good things.
I was thinking more about using an internal sound card. This is very different from an external DAC. How can you fairly comment on things like digital cables with nothing to actually hook one up to? Who is jumping. I have had sound cards before. I have actually listened to the speakers you have, and am familiar with near field monitoring.
Think about this... What if the noise PS, EMI/RFI etc of you PC swamps any possible difference in sound in your system? IE... everything sounds the same...
"I have actually have listened to a pair and the speakers are not bad, especially for the price. The wave guide does some good things."Have you heard them in your own house? I enthusiastically recommend the LSR305s for use as PC speakers. I agree. I think that wave guide is the secret to their sound. Note however that it is crucial that you get stands that elevate the tweeters to ear level. I think the IsoAcoustics ISOL8TRS are attractive and do the job, but even a pile of bricks or books would do the job for beginning audiophiles who can't afford the extra $100 for stands.
"I was thinking more about using an internal sound card."
Actually, this is just for the PC system. Amazing as it may seem, I also own a turntable, an optical drive and an external DAC. And multiple pairs of speakers. And multiple amplification chains. Not to mention a pile of LPs and CDs and a NAS. I too am an audio enthusiast.
"Think about this... What if the noise PS, EMI/RFI etc of you PC swamps any possible difference in sound in your system? IE... everything sounds the same..."
I've linked below to the Stereophile measurement of my PC's sound card taken while inside of a PC. While not perfect (what is?) I'm fairly confident that any issues it may have, even in the torturous environment of a PC's interior, are well below the level of audibility. Notice how far down the noise and distortions are?
The whole point of my suggesting the "listener's challenge" was to demonstrate how hard it is to hear differences that are -50dB to -60dB down. I could not care less about differences that are more than -90dB down. I know you refuse to even listen to the "challenge." How about a thought experiment instead. Have you ever listened to a well set up vinyl system? Noticed how good the stereo imaging is? Now ask yourself this: how is that possible when the channel separation is on the order of -35dB down, at best? Anything below -40dB is essentially mono. If it is so easy to hear these low level signals, why don't vinyl systems all sound monophonic?
JE
Edits: 08/30/14
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