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In Reply to: RE: Understand. posted by AbeCollins on August 29, 2014 at 22:41:12
"This was a while back about the same time said inmate was suggesting defragmenting SSDs was a good thing"
That was not my recollection, so I went back and checked. My recollection was correct.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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I just don't have ANY problems with XP on SSDs. Even w/o dual boot on XP, you can Trim as an external drive or run Diskeeper SSD Free Space Optimizer.
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Posted by fmak on 2014-04-04, 22:23:22 (93.109.161.60)
This is why I have dual boot. On XP I run programs that W8 won't plus reliable and easier/more informative Acronis and Diskeeper. On W8 Trim works. On some earlier SSD, you can also run Garbage collec .......
Diskeeper SSD Free Space Optimizer IS a defragmenter. No benefit on SSD. Look it up.
In other posts, he suggests partitioning SSDs to minimize wear in one of the partitions. Won't work as SSDs are not 'electro-mechanical' in nature like HDDs. The controller will write to whatever NAND flash cells it chooses regardless of how the SSD is partitioned.
Like I said, tweaking and theorizing is one thing but spewing factually inaccurate misinformation is another.
I think there may be some confusion regarding software product names and versions. Here is fmak's post that I was working off:
"It is not defrag; read it up. Hyperfast
It works well."
I suggest reading the entire thread for more clarity.
My only experience with Diskeeper comes from using an early version to attempt to clean up a huge MFT. The only effect of the product was to trash the entire volume. As a result of this experience, I will never remotely consider purchasing any product from that company.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
I suggest reading the entire thread for more clarity.
Ye Gods! Where's the fun in that? All we need do is pull quotes at will and create mayhem where there used to be clarity. What kind of forum are you after?
Seriously, assuming (reasonably) that the link is the quote AC had in mind, it strikes me that it's a bit rich to "quote" out of context and without source a four-year-old remark on a different topic to discredit by association.
Still, what do we simple rednecks know about city folks' serrfisticated diskussions and flosifcal ways? Yeeeeeeeeehaw!
He said he used that defragger on his SSD. Lost credibility. Not sure how you see that comment of his being quoted 'out of context'.
Same inmate suggested partitioning a SSD to localize wear to the partition being written to. That doesn't work. Lost credibility again. Shall I dig that one up too?
Here's a guy who criticizes what he calls "IT guys" yet he spews factually incorrect computing nonsense. Believe what you will.
"Same inmate suggested partitioning a SSD to localize wear to the partition being written to. That doesn't work. Lost credibility again. Shall I dig that one up too?"
You may be right, but the verification would depend on details of SSD firmware, operating system drivers and file system software. At the time, I didn't particularly care, as I had reached the conclusion that SSDs were not (yet) mature technology and therefore not to be trusted with my precious data....
If you were arguing that most people tweaking computer audio systems don't have a clue as to what is going on, then I would agree with you. I would put myself in the same category since it has been decades since I had direct access to hardware and software designers and access to hardware logic diagrams and software source code. This is why I believe that tweaking operating systems for better sound quality will ultimately prove to be a futile effort, since it is vastly more difficult than simply designing and building proper isolation into DACs and downstream analog equipment. (If you are unsatisfied with the sound you get with your existing hardware, then these tweaks may be the best available alternative.)
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
... "inmate was suggesting defragmenting SSDs was a good thing" - is a BS and a lie, disseminated by a notorious BS'er and a liar, in other do discredit an inmate who forgot more about audio-related matters, than nasty Apple-fixated coward ever knew.The fact that he also absolutely can't remain focused on audio-related topics - SSD defragmenting, value of Apple stocks etc. - while posting in Computer Audio forum, just adds an insult to (apparent brain) injury.
Edits: 08/30/14
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