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In Reply to: RE: Thanks for the link posted by Jaundiced Ear on August 20, 2014 at 10:08:45
"I'm the only one qualified to judge whether or not I am wasting my time."
As was already stated we can judge whether you are wasting our time...
Something for you to ponder... How do you know unequivocally that you concept or testing or measurements is the correct path? Prove this...
What if one's hearing and the human experience was actually the way to find the audio truth???
And you are just full of hot air???
Prove this wrong... Until you can do this, maybe you can stop asking for testing in every thread...
If this was a religious discussion you should not bombard people who worship Allah, with you demands to believe in Jesus...
Follow Ups:
At least there, a cool $1,000,000 is waiting for you, still unclaimed after all these years.
That ought to be a walk in the park - now for the hard part: try to coax a meaningful, satisfactory explanation out of Cauliflower Ear, why he thinks that:
- the test he linked to is relevant to the matters discussed;
- the result, whether positive or negative, achieved by YOU, on your system with your ears, has any meaning for HIM personally, or is relevant for pretty much anyone or anything else.
Something tells me that "I'm currently out of toilet paper, so I'm gonna print out those results, and use as directed" is as close as you're going to get.
"What if one's hearing and the human experience was actually the way to find the audio truth???"
"Prove this wrong... Until you can do this, maybe you can stop asking for testing in every thread..."
Go to the link below and download the Audio Diffmaker. On the same page is a link to a different page full of "dyf" files. Go to that page and find the "Listener Challenge" which is made up of seven pairs of dyf files, labeled "Test 1" through "Test 7." You can download any or all of these but after 1 or 2 you should get the idea pretty quickly. Note also, that when playing a dyf file, ignore the tempting looking "Load" button and instead go to the menu bar and use the "Dyf File Sets" menu to load the files.
Fire up the test! Click on play for the alternate tracks to audition them (each is roughly ten seconds long) then use the "extract" button to extract the difference between the two tracks and then play it back.
I'm answering you honestly, I ask you to take the challenge honestly. No subjecting the tracks to machine analysis. No playback at levels you would not ordinarily listen at. Just kick back, enjoy the lullaby as you would any piece of fine music and see if you can spot the difference between them. The Audio Diffmaker can find it. Can you?
My understanding, though I can't cite a source, is that the difference is mixed in at about -60dB. Listening to the extracted difference makes that seem about right. For the most part, it's pretty hard to hear, isn't it? This is why I don't really care that much about "issues" that are more than -100dB down, and why I find it amazing that people claim they make huge differences to the sound of their systems.
YMMV and All the Best!
JE
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