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In Reply to: RE: HDtracks 24/96 download vs same ripped from remastered CD.... posted by Tony Lauck on July 10, 2014 at 12:28:46
"No. That does not follow. Some music is more demanding than others. Also, you don't know how much better that great CD could have been. It might have been "out of this world"."
All true Tony...
But the outer limit, as it were, is essentially limitless. What's maximum?
On the other hand the threshold of acceptability, or satisfaction or something along that line seems clearer: you know it when you're below it or well above it. And I've had too many experiences where I was well below it at live concerts!
Since I am usually above it at home (as I don't listen very much to poor recordings) that's good. Actually I'd love to hear your system as I suspect that I might find it above it also but with better margins than mine, but who knows? We're complex, cranky creatures...
Rick
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The maximum possible is a good seat in a great hall, such as Symphony Hall in Boston or the smaller Jordan Hall, also in Boston. More recently, I've heard great sound in the Barre, Vermont Opera House from a set in the center of the front row. In this case, the production was partially staged, with the orchestra at the back of the stage and the set and singers in the front, about 20 feet from where I was sitting. The orchestra was small, appropriate to the Rossini opera.
I have a friend who is an organist and a leader of the Organ Historical Society and have had occasion to hear a number of organs throughout Vermont, including up close and personal. I can tell you that the sound is amazing and not something that my system can come close to reproducing, certainly not when it comes to the pedal notes. Some of these 150+ year old instruments produce truly magnificent sound. I got to wander about the empty churches and try out a variety of listening positions and find the position I liked best for the music being played at the time.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
"I got to wander about the empty churches and try out a variety of listening positions and find the position I liked best for the music being played at the time."
Yea, there you go, optimizing information that usually goes largely uncaptured let alone reproduced well at home. A few months ago I went to our local concert hall which had been redesigned since I went regularly plus we had quite good seats. It was really impressive the choir was on floor to ceiling risers and the orchestra well arrayed in front. The air was just thick with information and we were awash.
I can't imagine how one could capture all of it let alone reproduce it at home. Maybe some binaural scheme with multiple ears whose mix changes when you turn your head at home. Sure isn't gonna happen with two channels and neither is your cheating and finding the best seat in the house PER NUMBER. Yes, that probably does amount to as good as it gets!
Regards, Rick
In my youth I used to sit in Boston's Symphony hall in the cheapest seats in the second balcony. The program came with a map of all the seats in the hall, and I used to mark out all the free seats in the better sections that were still empty at the start of intermission. Then I went down and sat in the expensive sections for the second half of the concert. This usually worked out OK, but once in a while an embarrassing situation happened that required a bit of fast talking on my part and movement to another previously scoped out seat.So I became quite familiar with how the various seats in Symphony Hall sounded and took advantage of this in later years when I was sufficiently affluent to afford whatever seats were available.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Edits: 07/12/14
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