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In Reply to: RE: It is of course a computer, runs software, requires software updates and so on... posted by Sprezza Tura on April 23, 2014 at 08:18:46
"It is a PURPOSE BUILT Audio computer, not one off the assembly line in China with a hundred parts that have nothing to do with audio and stuffed with bloated O/S's and software that again, have nothing to do with audio."
Now that is a serious exaggeration ...
"You can make all the derogatory comments you like about a product like this but the fact is it sounds better than any "optimized" off the shelf computer running Jriver, Audirvana, or Pure Music. Yes, i have heard them ALL."
But there are still lots of stuff out there you have not heard. I feel you are overestimating the superiority of the one box solution. At the end of the day IMO it is really the same, not better. It is all a mater of choice, dedication and what you are willing to spend.
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both other PC mainboards, and the boards in CD players & DACs?
They are very different.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
"both other PC mainboards, and the boards in CD players & DACs?
They are very different."
Are you talking about actual CD players, or Hard Drive, Streamer type players?
Very different mainboard animals, - obviously, - from PCs.....
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
"Very different mainboard animals, - obviously, - from PCs..... "
Depends what you mean... More similar than you think, depending what you are comparing it to. If you are saying the desktop or notebook you purchase from the big box store, yes different.
But when you look inside, an Intel or ARM board with a BIOS running an OS. Yes reduced instructions, and running generally one application, but they are very similar to what many of us are using. Just not in one box.
When did "one box" become an important consideration for an audiophile???
I am saying two things, - (perhaps not so clearly).
1. That an audio only device's mainboard will be very different because it will not have bus slots for cards, USB ports, video ports, huge processor, and RAM DIMM slots. Many of these audio only boxes do have small circuit boards, but overall, set up with damping materials, better, (sometimes point to point wiring, tubes, etc).
2. There's a difference between what I think is good, and what is available: starting with the HD, - which also shouldn't be included. Separating the power supply(s)from the DACs are/should be a good thing.
Cheers,
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
I can guarantee you that a Mini ITX motherboard is not PURPOSE BUILT to be an Audio Computer. It is stuffed with tons of general purpose parts for general purpose computing, many having no relevance to audio at all and are most likely manufactured in China/Taiwan as are most PC motherboards.
By limiting the functionality of the Operating System by removing non essential services on this computer, and eliminating the display, the manufacturer is doing exactly what many inmates here are doing with their general purpose music servers (computers).
If the Bryston BDP series is based on Auraliti architecture as you mentioned, then I guess all those Bryston buyers are being duped into believing it's not a computer??
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