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In Reply to: RE: How good is your PC/Mac server? posted by Mercman on April 19, 2014 at 12:37:11
I have been listening to W8.1, then 8.1x64 then Server2012R2 (same hardware). Amazingly, there is a very significant improvement in clarity, tonality and sound staging with the server devoid of any programs and roles other than having player software. Watching the no of threads and handles go down appears to have quite an effect. This is also the case with Server 2012 as features are stripped away, even to the extent of getting rid of .net frame 3.5. Certainly not having Antivirus and Firewall is a prerequisite to better sound.
The answer to your post is: who knows?
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"Watching the no of threads and handles go down appears to have quite an effect. This is also the case with Server 2012 as features are stripped away, even to the extent of getting rid of .net frame 3.5. Certainly not having Antivirus and Firewall is a prerequisite to better sound.
The answer to your post is: who knows?"
Well... in general the answer is, as we come closer to a stable optimized audio only OS the better. We keep moving in that direction. :)
Are you in core mode?
Were you able to get the drivers working?
regards
Bob
Very interesting discovery on drivers in 2012. Only the Theyscon driver (1.61) will install and work properly. All XMOS versions fail to install although they all work in 32 bit Win.
I have managed to get 1.61 to work properly after meticulous clearing out of previous installs.
Not yet in core modes but all Server functions save file are uninstalled.
No, I haven't solved the driver update issue. But it seems that Theyscon and XMOS drivers are different, although I can now fool 32 bit W8.1 into using the latest XMOS drivers with the old Theyscon CPL and Spy Tool stitched in. This allows me to change buffers and look at usb data transfer characteristics.
I think it is a case of 'wrong' customisation of drivers with Server 2012R2 but I don't want to buy their package on the basis of minimum no of licenses.
The Totaldac d1-Monobloc with server feature allows me to listen to the Linux server and then my computer setup. The comparison is not a definitive answer to anything, but allows one to see how close the computer and it's associated accessories compare sonically to the server.
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"The Totaldac d1-Monobloc with server feature allows me to listen to the Linux server and then my computer setup. The comparison is not a definitive answer to anything, but allows one to see how close the computer and it's associated accessories compare sonically to the server."
I would guess much of it's beauty is the uniqueness of design, filtering, re-clocker etc. The Linux server is pretty straight forward, low power, basic MPD. As you mentioned, you can compare by plugging the re-clocker into your server. Should be a fun comparison.
It is a fun comparison Bob.
Thanks
Closeness or otherwise. This is the problem. Who knows what the reference should be?
There is no reference as you stated. It just allows you to compare your computer to a dedicated slimmed down OS.
Does Linux distribution matter? Which one are you guys using? Debian/Mint/etc?
You can slim youself with ease; install server 2012 with no extraneous functions other than to play music. A 20G install space is far more than adequate. They say 16G to install. After slimming, it's less than 10G.
"You can slim youself with ease; install server 2012 with no extraneous functions other than to play music. A 20G install space is far more than adequate. They say 16G to install. After slimming, it's less than 10G."
This still does not amount to what the optimizer does. The optimized server in core mode is very different.
I know, but things with me are slow.
"I know, but things with me are slow."
We all are... :)
Hardware 'optimisation' is as important as software 'optimisation' The 2 don't always meet.
I do both simultaneously but reject miracle components in favour of getting basics right.
"Hardware 'optimisation' is as important as software 'optimisation' The 2 don't always meet."
I have not had too many issues. The Optimizer even has settings for use of the Mytek driver which I believe some have had problems with other OSs.
I am using an Intel server board with everything turned off, and a PPA Studio USB card. Other system is an Atom with the same USB. Even the keyboard is turned off. The Atom uses MSata, so not even a cable. Depending how serious you want to get, PPA has a MB clock upgrade. I have not tried it, but it has gotten positive feedback on the forums.
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