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In Reply to: RE: Sonore Rendu experience & comparaisons posted by David L on April 07, 2014 at 15:50:11
I have asked twice before, but no one responded. The ease with a NAS set up sounds very nice. Do you mind sharing more about your use experience?
What are you using for a NAS?
What software do you use for control?
I ask, because I am just about to make the leap to a NAS with ethernet feeding 3 different systems in the house, so I can have every recording available at every site, with that lovely ease of selection and control. This will even push me to upgrade to a smart phone.
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Glad you found my post useful.
The NAS is a Synology DS412+. I chose this to give sufficient storage (4x4TB) to cover my future needs - 3x current home video + music + photos, and backups + time machine for 2 computers. I chose the '+' model to get a more powerful processor. I spent some time examining options for software: for the server I preferred the MinimServer software as it has very good support and documentation and can run on the NAS. For control I used the Audionet app running on an iPad mini - most manufacturers of renderer hardware have a custom app, but many of these do not support gapless playback or hi-res material. Audionet does both, has a fast response and is easy to use.
Along the way I looked at JRiver for serving and JRemote for control (which have a strong following). I found JRiver difficult to get to grips with for a beginner: it has massive but poor and fragmented documentation, with no simple user manual. After a couple of months experience with MinimServer+Audionet I revisited JRiver to see if it could remove the (relatively minor) shortcomings I'd found in MinimServer + Audionet. After a few days hard study I found it could so I may well switch. JRiver allows multi, simultaneous, customised playback zones which you require and I find useful. It also allows me to customise the display for JRemote so that I can use Genre> Album> Artist which I prefer for classical music.
I can't emphasise too strongly the need to setup a cast-iron ethernet network if you want to listen to music rather than fiddle with hardware.
If you are interested I can post some details of my network hardware.
Enjoy the music!
Thank you for your detailed posts!
I gather that you have run into some ethernet issues that you have learned from. I have been assuming that ethernet was solid and overkill, so simply implementing a Cat 6 run from a common switch would do the trick. Are there choices that require some care?
The whole software arena is of interest to me. Jesus of Sonore has recommended JRiver and JRemote, but I have had no experience with them. To date I have used Foobar2000 on a PC connected via USB to a Berkeley Alpha USB converter that I then connect via SPDIF to my DAC. This has sounded compellingly good compared to the EAR Acute CD player I had been using (which I happily used for several years). My hope would be for the Rendu to sound as good as the Berkeley unit.
I have been frustrated with metatags and the Foobar2000 display - - it really results in a jumble. Classical music is ~60% of my collection, and this makes for a mess. I have looked at Musichi as a means of editing and organizing, but using it has eluded me in the two trials I have had at it (admittedly somewhat desultory efforts on my part, but the software is not really intuitive or well documented IME). Now, with a ~6 months of time, I have gotten used to the jumble and have sorted out the lay of the land, so I can navigate to a specific performance pretty quickly - - I just cannot imagine getting my wife to accept this kind of an arrangement. It is pretty annoying. So, I am hoping that JRiver has some better organizational capabilities, as well as JRemote making easy the use of a smart phone for controlling the playback.
I am eager to hear of your experiences on that front as well.
Send me an email and I'll post a PDF describing my network.
David
I have both JRiver and MusiChi
If it is about the interface, MusiChi is no match, likewise in the DSP department.
If it is about tagging classical, the MusiChi tagger is very powerful.
I tag all my classical with this tagger.
I have tags for Opus/Catalog, Composition, Year and movement.
Compared with JRiver a real time saver.
CHI also support GD3 for lookup, much better than the very limited YADB JRiver is using.
A bit more about the tagger can be found in the link below.
The Well Tempered Computer
I'm curious about how you use both. Does JRiver benefit from the work tagging in Musichi? Can you then slice and dice your catalog easily with JRiver after touching it up in Musichi, or do you have to use Musichi to have the improved access?
This is about tagging only.
One can define custom tags both in JRiver and MusiCHI.
E.g. MusiCHI has a tag Composition, so I define it in JRiver as well.
http://www.thewelltemperedcomputer.com/SW/Players/MC14/Custom_tags.htm
http://www.thewelltemperedcomputer.com/SW/Players/CHI/CHI_CustomTags.htm
MusiCHI also allows for tag mapping.
I do the tagging on the files with the CHI tagger, JRiver reads them (most of the time by its self as it scans the file system for changes)
In the past I used JRiver and its expression language to extract information like Opus, Composition.
CHI has these expression build in, much faster.
Another stronghold is the Cleaner.
Almost all composers are in the database, hence you have them spelled uniformly.
Compositions by major composers are in this database as well.
Gives you all the information like name, nickname, key, opus, catalog, year, instruments.
I use this to make views in JRiver like
Composer > Opus
Composer > Work
Etc
http://www.thewelltemperedcomputer.com/SW/Players/JRiver/Classical_Opus.htm
The Well Tempered Computer
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