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StephenJK

In Reply to: RE: player for windows computer posted by bertucciandy@yahoo.com on April 07, 2014 at 12:28:06

Claiming that WMP beats JRiver won't impress many as the former is a collection of compromises while the latter is purpose built for bit perfect playback of just about anything.

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/436-jriver-media-c (Open in New Window)

Edits: 04/07/14

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Jeez folks - JeffH 13:23:09 04/07/14 (10)
how in the world does this form of banter help anybody? All it seems to do, is satisfy something in you.

Edits: 04/07/14
- I thought I was being helpful.... - StephenJK 13:38:30 04/07/14 (2)
  But it does come across as being a bit terse. I suppose I should have asked why he didn't like what he had tried for players to date.
  - RE: I thought I was being helpful.... - JeffH 16:11:26 04/07/14 (1)
    Actually, wasn't directed specifically to you. Sorry!
    - No problem, Jeff. - StephenJK 18:14:26 04/07/14 (0)
      Your point was well made.
- RE: Jeez folks - bertucciandy@yahoo.com 13:38:11 04/07/14 (6)
  Using windows 7 ripping to wma lossless. asus xonar essence soundcard direct to amps via analog outputs.
  - RE: Jeez folks - Roseval 14:06:11 04/07/14 (1)
    As other suggested, try different drivers.
    WMP is tied to DS (Direct Sound).
    Al audio is played at a fixed sample rate (as set in the sound panel) and always dithered.
    Players like JRiver allows you to choose different ones like WASAPI or ASIO.
    If your sound card supports ASIO, this is probably your best bet.
    By doing so you might perceive a bit more transparency.
    
    Some alternatives: Foobar (I don�t like the interface), MusicBee (good interface)
    
    You might try some minimalist ones ( horrible or no interfaces most of the time) like MQn
    
    The Well Tempered Computer
    - http://thewelltemperedcomputer.com/KB/Driver.htm (Open in New Window)
    - Yes, ASUS supports ASIO - drivers are fine (was a problem several years ago). N/T - carcass93 14:08:14 04/07/14 (0)
      N/T
  - Important: what output options in JRiver have you tried... - carcass93 13:49:13 04/07/14 (0)
    ... that didn't impress you, compared to WMP? Was it ASIO, WASAPI, Kernel Streaming? Or was it DirectSound?
    
    BTW, if your goal is ultimate sound quality - you'll have to lose WMA, too.
  - Are you - JeffH 13:47:00 04/07/14 (2)
    saying the JRiver didn't sound as good as WMP? or that you couldn't tell the difference and weren't impressed?
    
    Also, are you trying to better or equal the sound of a dedication cd player?
    - RE: Are you - bertucciandy@yahoo.com 13:52:02 04/07/14 (1)
      I apologize - I should have been more specific. Jriver did sound better than wma, but not by much, to my ears. Yes, I am looking to beat a cd player, but to me running wma direct to my amps with the asus soundcard has already done that. Would like to sample other players that may sound better than jriver.
      - RE: Are you - JeffH 14:48:19 04/07/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Are you posted by bertucciandy@yahoo.com on April 07, 2014 at 13:52:02
        
        JRiver, JPlay, MQn all claim to be "audiophile" in quality.....
        Others beat me to it, but WASAPI or ASIO will beat directsound every time if supported.
        
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"JRiver.... is purpose built for bit perfect playback" - what does that tell us? - carcass93 13:14:27 04/07/14 (0)
That it sounds good? Nope - it doesn't, compared to some other alternatives, which are purpose-built for best sound quality - and bit-perfect playback is just one, necessary but not sufficient, requirement.
However, there's no argument from me that JRiver, used with one of its bit-perfect output options (ASIO, WASAPI, don't remember whether it supports KS) should sound better than WMP - even on non-optimized PC.
If OP uses it via DirectSound, then there's a good chance that the differences are impossible to hear.

Edits: 04/07/14 04/07/14

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