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In Reply to: RE: "sticking my head in a wrong place" - may be you did, may be not. Depends... posted by Old Listener on April 01, 2014 at 23:50:58
I'm sure you personally can stick one end of generic USB cable into generic PC, another into cheap DAC, and declare the result "Beautiful Digital Sound".
Someone more discerning would call that "mediocre digital sound" - and would be entirely correct, IMO. Someone else might call your attitude very non-audiophile-like, and also an impediment on the way to better sound - and would be entirely correct, too.
Not to mention that you have no idea how long it took someone to arrive at the solution he's comfortable with, or how much grief it caused (none, I suspect).
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It is a subjective judgement. For me, that judgement has nothing with the cost of the components or the amount of tweaking that I did.
I do my homework before I buy audio gear and expect to use it a long time. During that time I'm listening to music with only occasional thought about the sound of the gear.
> Not to mention that you have no idea how long it took someone to arrive
> at the solution he's comfortable with, or how much grief it caused
> (none, I suspect).
I remarked on the title of the OP. It is an audiophile ritual to talk about how terrible digital audio (or computer audio) sounded through various gear changes until the magic formula was found. I'm not surprised that humor is lost on you.
my blog: http://carsmusicandnature.blogspot.com/
Personally, I am looking for "beautiful sound" like what I hear at live acoustic concerts. When I hear reproduced sound that is quite close to what I hear at live concerts and provides similar musical enjoyment, I'm not going to consider it "mediocre". The problem with digital sound, at least until fairly recently, is that most of it wasn't even "mediocre" it was more like "disgusting". (Or going way back to the 1980's, the word might even have been "vile".)
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
"The problem with digital sound, at least until fairly recently, is that most of it wasn't even "mediocre" it was more like "disgusting". (Or going way back to the 1980's, the word might even have been "vile".)"
I felt pretty much the same, never cared for digital until I started with computer audio. Even then I still preferred analog, but digital convenience was just too appealing for all but the most serious listening.
With my current system I do not miss analog. Quite an accomplishment IMO.
For fun I sill enjoy trying different things. I recently tried a new Linux program Daphile. It is actually a pretty nice program Very good Linux audio but IMO not as good as my current system or a maybe good MAC system. Worth giving a listen, the developer has done a very nice job.
Everyone has different a mindset, some technologists and inquisitive and others complacent.
Either one can enjoy music equally. One can be whomever they like, but IMO most "computer people" I know enjoy tech and still find it interesting even after all these years. Maybe some of us are still just young at heart.
Yeah he did a good job, but its still your standard Linux/Squeeze (Play/Lite) under the hood.
He won't budge on tweaks being a bits-r-bits guy, but strangely enough he uses a real time kernel....which is said 'not' to have any benefit in play back.
Either way, if someone wants an effortless setup of Squeeze... Daphile is the way to go.
MpdPup is an abandoned puppy, already obsolete.
Still there are lots of options for every OS, so no worries.
Its been awhile since I played with Windows audio, I might give W-Server a spin, seeing I have an extra SSD laying around.
Dynobots Audio
Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
"Its been awhile since I played with Windows audio, I might give W-Server a spin, seeing I have an extra SSD laying around."
That is funny, since last week you said you already did...
Does MPD.... pup stand for multiple personality disorder?
> Does MPD.... pup stand for multiple personality disorder?
No, but there are daemons at work.
my blog: http://carsmusicandnature.blogspot.com/
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Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it and, fortunately, my neighbors were out of town so I could play it at a suitable volume level. I would say that the music has certain similarities to the work of Carl Orff, as in this video:
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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