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In Reply to: RE: As Steve Martin used to say on Saturday Night Live posted by Charles Hansen on July 03, 2012 at 23:54:21
This has nothing to do with anything. There are plenty of good 176.4/192k and dsd recordings around that audiophiles go for. Even some of the most originally anti hires inmates here have been buying them by the GB (or TB).
''On the other hand if you want the capability to go to 192 kHz then you need Mac Snow Leopard or newer, a newer version of Linux, or install the Thesycon driver in Windows XP or newer (or maybe Microsoft will include it as part of Win 8). You also have to flip the switch on the back.''
Many use PCs, and dacs with multiple inputs plus usb provide one stop drivers that just work.
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If I am following your posts correctly, your opinion is that it is better to:
a) Have a USB DAC that REQUIRES a driver installation to even operate.
than:
b)Have a USB DAC that will operate up to 96 kHz with no driver installation required, or by flipping a switch operate up to 192 kHz with Mac and Linux and only require a driver installation with Windows.
If that is what you are saying, I strongly disagree as flipping a switch is a much easier thing to do than install a computer driver.
In any case we are both entitled to our own opinions. There is no "right" or "wrong" answer to this situation. As always, the final decision is up to each customer to make.
Many use PCs, and dacs with multiple inputs plus usb provide one stop drivers that just work.
True. And the most reliable of those USB drivers is probably Thesycon's. Your suggestion, made here and elsewhere, that it is anything else is, to be polite, ill-informed.
If I had the money, I'd buy an Ayre DAC tomorrow. Apart from its reputation for fine sound, one reason for my choice would be that its Windows driver is, from experience (yes, unlike you, I use it and know it), rock solid.
The OP has a minor config issue that has either been resolved already or will be pretty soon. Designer bashing is inappropriate here.
This is typical of your posting on the back of what others should have responded, in this case Charles Hensen.
If you want to play games, do it with yourself, or with 2-3 others here.
This is typical of your posting on the back of what others should have responded
You really are an insolent little troll. Charles Hansen dealt with the specific issue of his own product; Steve and I pointed out that your remarks about wider use of the Thesycon driver ("I have warned about 'driverless' and 3rd party driver USB audio devices . . .; "These are some of the issues you get with 'driverless' or 3rd party driver installed hardware on the 'Sometimes Universal Serial Bus . . .) were not made any more correct by being repeated.
In fact, you've talked gobs*** about the Thesycon USB driver in recent posts in this forum, in AA Digital and, IIRC, on DIYAudio. Your latest comment was just one too many. You clearly know absolutely nothing about the product and are misleading list members.
To correct the record, the driver works and works well. So, if I may, I'll borrow your aphorism - Get Lost.
How many times have you posted on the merits of cMP?
There is little basis to what you advocate, not even with the use of decent audio equipment.
Gee Fred what happened to:
If inmates find a big difference, I believe them instead of preach at them.
Ryelands, myself and many others did find big differences with the cmp2 recipe. But somehow you seem to preach at us. What a crock.
You never actually said you created a cmp2 box and listened to it.
DID YOU ACTUALLY BUILD ONE?
Or do you just know without hearing them how things sound??
I am guessing the latter. Fred just knows without listening....
Afterwards we discovered faith; it's all you need
A troll who accuses others of trolling
Damn - I seem to have mislaid my fly swatter.
Examine your brain
What I and others wouldn't [buy] is down to us.
True. But what's not down to you is the right to belittle products you know nothing about. I say the Thesycon driver (it's not a USB DAC BTW) is rock solid because I and dozens of others (inc, I note, Steve) have installed it and forgotten about it: it works day-in and day-out without trouble. As indeed a driver should.
You have no grounds for undermining the product, not that'll stop you trying.
no grounds for making the accusations. You read what you want to into what I said but this is down to your own pysche.
I've had no issues with Thesycon driver with W7. The Ayre uses Streamlength USB that is solid in performance.
really this simple. Good man-machine interfaces are newcomer (and even old comer) proof. It is not beyond a manufacturer to provide a one stop solution. Making excuses for this that or the other when inmates have trouble is more troublesome than bundling a simple install solution, or installing a switch which says MAC/PC/Linux input.If you don't need or want it for a narrowly focused set up, fine. However, judging from the no of posts of people having issues with switches and the ability to follow long instructions (read them), there has been an issue.
Edits: 07/04/12 07/04/12 07/04/12 07/04/12 07/04/12
If I understand you correctly, you don't like the Ayre QB-9 because of the switch for Full Speed USB or Hi Speed USB.
All I can say, is that I was able to master this concept relatively quickly, and enjoyed listening to this fine DAC on my system.
Based on the no of people who had issues and who asked for help here and elesewhere, and based on the number of assertions that there are no issues by inmates here, I'd say that is a human interface issue and that it should be 'sorted' vis installation software.
> > > Good man-machine interfaces are newcomer (and even old comer) proof
1) You recommend the Wyred: ""As soon as I selected the Wyred4Sound DAC2 in the sound devices window, the iMac crashed." NOT;
2) There is an entire thread discussing the merits of ignoring your (trolling) posts.
the article is so confusing throughout that I concluded it was the writer.
Six Moons is an advertorial based 'journal?'
"Good man-machine interfaces are newcomer (and even old comer) proof"
Funny how you're willing to make an exception to "support" your weak argument.
Ciao.
nt
''True. And the most reliable of those USB drivers is probably Thesycon's''
Show us the basis for saying this. Certainly there are more issues posted here than with other recent usb dacs.
What you want to buy it's up to you. What I and others wouldn't do is down to us.
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