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In Reply to: RE: Compared to the Proton? Nt posted by Sumflow on June 30, 2012 at 18:52:57
>The Dragonfly's digitally controlled analog volume, like that found on the
>Wavelength Proton, will not degrade the sound when reduced, like it does
>on the $500.00 Halide Dac...
I review the Halide DAC HD in the August issue of Stereophile. It does not
have a volume control. What am I missing?
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
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John,
I think what he is saying is that to use a volume control with the Halide you would have to use the application control, which of course will limit the data going to the dac.
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Look guys you cannot compare apple's to oranges. Everyone is going to have different tastes and needs. Go out and freaken listen and make your own decision. That's why we pay the dealers!
Thanks
Gordon
J. Gordon Rankin
> Look guys, you cannot compare apple's to oranges.
Comparing audio equipment is not always an option for non-city people. I found one authorized dealer who no longer carries the Halide HD they say, “for the money there are better options around.” Now they actively promote the Dragonfly on the front page of their Website. Except for the inevitable junction losses, and top-notch cables, is there anything the Halide HD does better than the Dragonfly?
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> I think what he is saying is that to use a volume control with the Halide
> you would have to use the application control, which of course will limit
> the data going to the dac.
Indeed. But who would do that? Analog volume control after the DAC is
the logical system architecture. Unless you want to drive headphones
directly from the DAC output, in which case the Dragonfly will be a more
appropriate choice than the Halide, having an output stage that was
designed to drive headphones.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
Gordon:> you would have to use the application control, which of course will limit the data going to the dac.
John Atkinson> Indeed. But who would do that?
John we have 75 million baby boomers reaching retirement. We can already get The Rolling Stones at 176 kHz, Neil Young at 192 kHz. We can pay for better sound when using our computers. None know anything about Dac’s. Why should we?
I am not talking about headphones. Music will be stored and streamed from the cloud. Netflix, Pandora, Hulu, Youtube, WebPages, Phone calls, all go through Dac’s as well as audio players. The Gordonfly offers the additional flexibility to change the volume without degrading the source from the computer, as well as from the pre-amp for the few who continue to use them. The Halide HD, a similar product with similar technology does not.
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The Driver smiled when he lost the car in pursuit...
"Music will be stored and streamed from the cloud. Netflix, Pandora, Hulu, Youtube, WebPages, Phone calls, all go through Dac's as well as audio players."
You're divulging proprietary, 'need to know' type information.
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