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In Reply to: RE: Great, so you agree with me posted by bwb on June 30, 2012 at 10:02:10
Instead of acknowledging you were wrong you try to twist words.
Of course the effects of air vibrations are practically zero on a component suspended by a wire.
Again....It would take massive amounts of energy or a sustained frequency tuned to the exact resonant frequency of a component to vibrate it by sound waves alone.
Dynobots Audio
Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
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Denying the effects of airborne vibrations despite tons of evidence to the contrary shows you either are completely misinformed,
you are arguing just for the fun of it, or you
in any case it is as you say,,,, hopeless
good day
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Denying the effects of airborne vibrations despite tons of evidence to the contrary shows you either are completely misinformed,
I guess I need to repeat myself.....note the BOLD type.
Vibration can be split up into portions, some via air, some via external mechanical vibrations and yet another is self induced vibration.
Dynobots Audio
Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
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I thought you said earlier that sound waves through the air would not affect a component other than a turntable/cartridge.
I think it affects all components. Linn used to and may still encourage their dealers to have only the loudspeakers they were demonstrating in the room. They believed that sympathetic vibrations from other speakers affected the sound. I have a high respect for the folks at Linn so I'm going with true until proven otherwise.
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> > > I have a high respect for the folks at Linn so I'm going with true until proven otherwise.Too bad you cling so hard to the words of others instead of the knowledge gained via personal experience.
Perhaps in the future Linn will explain the whole truth about all sources of vibration and you will accept reality.
BTW, one of the largest sources of vibration is right through your A/C plugs. What do you think about that???? Sounds crazy huh...
> > > They believed that sympathetic vibrations from other speakers affected the sound.Sympathetic vibrations = other speakers woofers in the room will turn into "passive radiators". Okay sure but still you will need some serious db to make one loudspeaker effect another’s 'active' driver.
Either way, its best to test and find out these 'truths' rather than just accepting it as the gospel.
Dynobots Audio
Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
Edits: 07/01/12
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I try to be nice and see if you can clarify your position since it appears at least to me that you are on both sides of this. In one post you list airborne vibration as part of the equation and in another you say it can be ignored. You take it as an opportunity to hurl another putdown.
Linn has been in business since 1973. That's at least 39 years of experience in high end audio. I don't "cling" to what they say. I listen to them and try to incorporate their experience and expertise into my well of knowledge. I don't agree with everything they say but it would be idiotic to ignore that much experience.
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I don't "cling" to what they say.
I listen to them and try to incorporate their experience and expertise into my well of knowledge.
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If you incorporate their experience into your 'well' of knowledge without any first hand experience and oppose all other view points then you are clinging to what they say....are you not???
At least spend some time and fill your well of knowledge with first hand experiences. You might be suprised to find out not everything anyone says no matter how long they have been around is the gospel.
For example our resident engineer who believes everything has roots in jitter thinks that 1.5m is the ideal length for all digital cables, even usb. However Texas Instruments did a study and found that jitter via USB increases with cable length...even the length of the trace on motherboards. Instead of swallowing what either said whole-sale I tried for myself....low and behold TI was right. So much so that my 4" length of usb cable sounded better than both $300 converters and expensive cables I had. Of course I sold both and kept the $5 cable. Knowledge gained through first hand experience can not be beat.
Perhaps I should have just listened to TI since they have been in business for a longer period of time.
In audio nothing is as black and white as it might appear to be...shades of grey abound do to the many variables. Therefore its not about sides.
Dynobots Audio
Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
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without any first hand experience and oppose all other view points
At least spend some time and fill your well of knowledge with first hand experiences.
I have absolutely no idea how you came to those conclusions.
I have been dabbling in this hobby for over 40 years and have quite a bit of first hand experience.
I said I incorporate their knowledge. I said nothing about not using my experience and said nothing about opposing all other view points. It appears you have resorted to a straw man.
Since you are taking these huge leaps from what I say to these outrageous conclusions I see no point in continuing the discussion.
good day
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I said I incorporate their knowledge. I said nothing about not using my experience and said nothing about opposing all other view points. It appears you have resorted to a straw man.
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You said, and I Quote: "I listen to them and try to incorporate their experience and expertise into my well of knowledge. "
You incorporate THEIR experience and expertise...into...your well of knowledge. You said nothing of actually applying their experience. In fact anyone who knows English will conclude that a "Well Of Knowledge" exists in the mind.
No straw-man here....just you and your own words.
So what experiments have you done on this subject? I shared mine, tell me, based on your own first hand experience how were you able to conclude that vibrations via air effect components?
Dynobots Audio
Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
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I said "the end" which means I will no longer participate in this pointless debate.
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Continue to taunt me if you feel the need..
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