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In Reply to: RE: cPlay - the open source high-end audio player using ASIO posted by cics on May 05, 2008 at 13:31:58
With all the deletions of files in system32 and keys in the registry this apparently results in a very fragmented registry. Before I started reducing my registry its size was 16 mb. After some manual deletions (shown the way by Rickmcinnis) I was able to reduce it to 6 mb. And it was a significant sq pop. But I could not get it reduced further. I found a wonderful registry compacter Ntregopt (thanks to help from Ryelands) and it works like a charm. What you need to do is:..Download Ntregopt (google it...its freeware)
..Open regedit on your desktop
..Load your CMP os disk into your desktop (via a docking station or through a usb/sata converter)
..Load all your cmp hives into regedit (Sam, Security, Default, Software, System). Load them one at a time.
..Run Ntregopt...it will ask if its ok to start, say yes and its off to the races defragging or compacting your desktop registry as well as all the hives you have loaded. Its important and time efficient to do them all at once. When I tried to do them one by one I got to System and tried to boot it in cmp ... it would not work. After Ntregopt is finished it will ask to reboot ... say yes.
..After reboot go into your cmp registry and delete all bak files and all logs...Put cmp os disk back into your cmp pc/reboot. When I did this I ended up with a < 1 mb registry size.
This process was heavily contributed by Rick, Dave as well as Steppe/Mihaylov for pioneering registry slimming.
As you may go further in reducing cmp registry manually... defrag it again.
Forgot to say this is a significant sq pop... dynamics, timbre, mid and upper mid purity.
This tweak is especially good for those of us who did not want to reload Windows with a light footprint, do all the CMP / Cics tweaks again, redo all the Steppe/Mihaylov tweaks ... to end up with a tight registry.
Edits: 01/13/12 01/13/12 01/13/12Follow Ups:
almost done with registry deletions.Can't seem to get rid of root subentries in ENUM this time. Much more stubborn than the H55 install.
Edits: 01/14/12
...and far be it to comment on my 1st (and only tweak) but this is mega significant. I played one of my faves ... a Paul Paray Detroit Symphony Orchestra recording of Suppe overtures and it was so good I could not believe it. This recording is bright but very lively and my kind of bombastic power music. Its basically military type music so there is alot of macho' in it. I could not believe the power, the dynamics, the scale/sense of space, the density of the musical fabric and inner detail. I was disturbingly overwhelmed in a positive way by the playback.
I believe that anyone (no matter where you are in the Steppe/Mihaylov journey) can benefit from a registry defrag. Iirc the registry is located in memory so any efficiency moves made to it have a direct impact on music from a memory player like Cplay/cmp. Another benefit I picked up from the cumulative effects of registry slimming/compacting is that it doesn't swap data until at least 2:23 min/sec into the music whereas it was 2:13 or so. So this is an all around efficiency move but my oh my what it does for the music.
I have compacted my registry (it was not really very empty before). Thanks to You I now know which way to go and I'm beginning to see the light at the end? of our toils.
Serge.
P.S. Now almost everything is ready for the FINAL TWEAKED VERSION easy for everybody.
Edits: 01/13/12
Thanks Serge just happy I can give back a little. You got another tweak coming? Hope so. I always look fwd to your stuff.
Congratulations, Theo, with your registry tweak!
And Serge (steppe) keeps saying riddles :).
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live
Thanks Serge with this tweak maybe some of us can start catching up with you.
nor a secret. Hello, Serge, and Happy New Year, ar last. (Other inmates will think, I have finally grown mad, but You know what I mean). Yeah, not a secret, it's just that I managed to achieve a very interesting and significant result soundwise, but cannot yet recreate it so, that other inmates would have a no-brainer tweak. This one is big and single wrong step brings a BSOD, that's why I said it's dangerous. Please, be patient, it's coming. BTW, what size is your winlogon (read minlogon) file. Is it 17 or 24 kb?
Serge.
Hi Serge! Happy New Year!
My winlogon (minlogon) is 24KB.
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live
and, most probably, most inmates have the same. I had initially big problem with minlogon, so even deleted initial archive, but then downloaded again, next I have found an older one. Know what? Well, they are DIFFERENT. I use a 17 kb version (totally hacked - 16,5 kb). Shall I post about it at the top, You think? Also, how can I make it availible to the others, if they are interested? I can send it via e-mail...
Serge.
You are very very cryptic.
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live
Hey we have Snapshot or the equivalent let us be the judge of risk to take.
If I fail to create a safe routine, I promise to post it tomorrow night Moscow time (it's 21 00 here now)
Serge.
No problem take your time.
Thanks Ted for the concise write-up... with any luck I can use it this evening. Looking forward to another (addictive) SQ-Boost !
I've used NTREGOPT before, but it never occurred to me it could act upon anything other than the live registry (of the system it was run on). Loading the off-line hives and performing the compaction is "just too easy". I hope it works out that way for me. (...I can hear Rick laughing already...)
Cheers,
Grant
That's not a Toy... IT'S A TOOL !!
It will work for you. I'm sure Rick was laughing at me too because he heard it before I did (so did Ryelands).
My config folder is approx 852 kB
I have been looking all over the thread, and I can't find where it is described what is safe to delete.
I am at 16mb after Nlite and compacting. I would love to try this but prefer to benefit from your trial and error and not re invent.
Good, Rick! Could you upload the screenshot of SECURITY hive?
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live
So a screenshot would be just IT sitting there as an entry.
I think the key to those files being small is doing a minimized install and then compacting.
In my case that is all I can do.
I have trimmed another 100K out of the config folder since that post.
I had not finished deletions out of SYSTEM when I made my first "caompaction"
Strange. Well then maybe you show a screenshot of the entire registry as I showed?
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live
There are things to see on both sides of the screen.
I have sent you an email on your AA account with my home email address.
Write me back and I will forward a zipped file to you.
Much easier to deal with, and more informative, than a screenshot.
That's what I get for writing before trying.
Send me an email to my AA account, same as my username you do not have to use the AA buffer, and I will send you the files.
I assume you want the H55 version?
Could not have done this without you...a big thanks again.
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