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In Reply to: Silly boy. posted by dennzio on February 2, 2005 at 16:58:54:

A nation must have a robust military defense, especially if you are going to lead the pack. That does not presuppose a philosophy of it's utilization. Mine does not agree with the current administration's. The technology that I work on can be used for peace or for war. I would hope that it be used for peace, but this is only marginally my decision. If you are an engineer, you are probably in the same boat. Hell, if you farm for a living, some of your crops may feed military personnel, so should you stop farming?
We all share in the guilt for the actions of our nation, some of us prefer to look down and make believe there is no reason for that guilt, but not me.

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yeah but what happens when that nation`s robust military defense is used primarily for offensive purposes? - jaiva 17:49:55 02/20/05 (4)
which comtinually result in the deaths of hundreds of southand of innocent civilians every decade. since ww2 the country you develop waepon relayed systems for hasn`t gone a decade without killing hundreds of thousands of innocents
this decade Iraq.
90s; Iraq
80s; C. America
70s SE Asia
60s SE Asia
50s Korean Penensula.
really dot unlike the farmer why the fuck are you ACTIVELY contributing to this killing machine known as the US Armed Forces?
- Unfortunately, if we go down (the US) we go down together. - Lord Dot 18:02:02 02/20/05 (3)
  I agree with you however, we have a lot of blood on our hands. We all have a lot of guilt.
  - who is we? - jaiva 18:13:37 02/20/05 (2)
    the world doesn`t hate canada or europe it hates the States and with good reason.
    as far as wide scale military conflicts with the likes of china i don`t see it happening as the economies are too intertwined.
    china is going hell bent with its military to protect its access to resources cause it doesn`t trust the US to play fairly and who the hell can blame them?
    the real danger to the likes of me is when the avian flu virus mutates and allows for the easy spread among humans.
    to date it has had a 76% moratility rate on those who`ve caught it from infected birds.
    while I`m a bit worried about my kids future I`m gonna jsut keep partying on, while I still can.
    - You, me, us ... even them ... this is Pax Romana my man, neither of us have lived without it ... - Lord Dot 18:33:13 02/20/05 (1)
      ... history shows that when it is gone, we won't like it.
      But, as you say, we can do a far far better job and we should make no excuses for our mistakes, which are numerous.
      - yes things must get much worse if they have any chance of getting better. - jaiva 19:56:14 02/20/05 (0)
        
        In Reply to: You, me, us ... even them ... this is Pax Romana my man, neither of us have lived without it ... posted by Lord Dot on February 2, 2005 at 18:33:13:
        
        and hopefully most of the major damage will take place among those who deserve it the most.
        and we all know who those who people are.
        7 more years I`m 50 which allows me to retire in a place like Thailand or Malaysia.
        20 grand a year and you`re living pretty damn well in those parts.
Yes yes yes,,,one can rationalize anything one must in order to have a clear conscience. - dennzio 17:41:08 02/20/05 (1)
Remember the Eightfold Path and "right livlihood"?
- Sure ... I don't manufacture weapons. - Lord Dot 17:52:28 02/20/05 (0)
  I do research in robotics and other things. Scenarios include search and rescue, not search and destroy. I try to avoid actually developing weapons designed to kill. And you?
  ... in any case, you are trivializing these readings.

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