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I'm looking into a lawn tractor and would like advice.
I've seen a Simplicity Broadmor 16hp 44inch cut. On tues I'll look at a Toro. Input? Thanks...
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Lawnmowers are among the most polluting machines a consumer can buy. I once read a statistic that mowing the average lawn put more pollution into the air than driving an average car across the country! And lawns, with their perfect green flatness are biologically dead. Sell the mower, plant some flowers, vines and trees and attract birds, butterflies and bees!
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Hustler claims to have invented zero turn. It'll cut your mowing time by about a third depending on how many trees shrubs etc. you need to mow around.
Cub Cadet and Toro make good ones also.
Mike Bassett's Tractor Joke
There once was this 10 year old boy called Mike who lived on his father's farm and he was the biggest joy was tractors. He loved them. He adored them. In fact, without any exaggeration, they were his meaning for living. His roomed was decorated with tractor posters, he made tractor models and he took the greatest of joy in washing his father's tractors.One day he came home from school and his father announced that he had decided it was time to buy a new tractor for the farm, and that consequently he would be going to the National Exhibition Centre in Birmingham that weekend to pick one out. At this Mike went into tractor overdrive and started to beg his father to take him with him. Eventually his father relented and said "OK, you can come, but only if you finish all your homework and chores for the weekend on Friday night.
Friday night came round and little Mike rushed home from school and sat down to his homework. 30 minutes later (well he was only 10) he was at the kitchen sink doing the washing up and then it was out into the farmyard to wash the tractor. As he rubbed away he thought to himself "this is the last time I do this one, we'll have a new one next week". By 8 o'clock he was finished and it was time for his bath and then to bed.
Saturday morning, 7 o'clock. Mike jumped out of bed and ran downstairs and out to the yard where his father was getting the car ready. Having remembered that he had no clothes on, he ran back into the house, up to his room , got dressed and then ran back down again. Mike's father rebuked him, saying "You're having breakfast before you go" . So after breakfast it was into the car and off to the NEC.
All the way there Mike was looking out of the car window, trying to spot as many type of tractor as he could, much to his father's annoyance. "Will you be still for 1 hour?" A shrimp stood a better chance of surviving in a supernova. Eventually they arrived at the NEC and Mike's dad parked the car.
"Can I have a look around on my own" pleaded Mike. "You must be joking " retorted his father. However, as is the way with small children and some parents, one major tantrum later Mike was wandering around the NEC while his father picked out a new tractor.
The first stand that Mike came to was British and it had a wonderful big red tractor on it. Mike let out a little squeak of joy and jumped in the cab. There were all the usual knobs and dials, but in addition there was a stereo radio cassette. Now to Mike this was a major improvement on the tractor on his father's farm and for several minutes he was having great fun. Then the salesman arrived. "So what do you think of this model, Sir?" Well Mike was well enamoured and communicated this to the salesman in no uncertain terms. "Would you like to purchase this model Sir?" Mike thought about this and said "well I only get £2 pocket money per week will that cover it mister?" The salesman gainfully fought off a heart attack and screamed "Get out of my tractor you little %*&$@#&%" which naturally upset Mike a little bit. However he quickly recovered and headed for the next stand.
The next stand that Mike came to was German and it had a wonderful big yellow tractor on it. Mike let out a slightly louder squeak of joy and jumped in the cab. There were the same knobs and dials and stereo radio cassette, but also wash wipers on all the windows and a CD player attached to the radio cassette. Now to Mike this was a major improvement on the British tractor and for several minutes he was having great fun. Then the salesman arrived. "So what do you think of this model, Sir?" Well Mike was greatly impressed and communicated this to the salesman in no uncertain terms. "Would you like to purchase this model Sir?" Mike thought about this and said "well I only get £2 pocket money per week will that cover it mister?" The salesman gainfully fought off a heart attack and a stroke and screamed "Get out of my tractor you little %*&$@#&%" which naturally upset Mike again. However he recovered and headed for the next stand.
The next stand that Mike came to was American and it had a wonderful big blue tractor on it. Mike let out a loud scream of joy and jumped in the cab. There were the same knobs and dials, stereo radio cassette with CD and wash wipers on all the windows, but in this tractor there was also a microwave oven and a small TV. Now to Mike this was a major improvement on the German tractor and for 25 minutes he had a wonderful time. Then the salesman arrived. "So what do you think of this model, Sir?" Well Mike was gob-smacked for a moment from the enormity of his joy, but he eventually communicated his joy to the salesman. "Would you like to purchase this model Sir?" Mike thought hard about his answer this time and then said "well I only get £2 pocket money per week will that cover it mister?" The salesman swallowed what must have been 2 gallons of phlegm and screamed "Get out of my tractor you little %*&$@#&%" which naturally upset Mike greatly. However he recovered with some difficulty and headed for the next stand.
The next stand that Mike came to was Japanese and it had a wonderful, enormous, golden tractor on it. Mike let out a very loud scream of joy which shattered several wine glasses in the near vicinity and jumped into the cab in a single bound. There were the same knobs and dials, stereo radio cassette with CD, wash wipers on all the windows and microwave oven, but this tractor had a widescreen TV with Nicam stereo sound and a small car attached to the back to take you home after a hard day in the fields. Now to Mike this was without doubt the most stupendous tractor he had ever seen and for a whole hour he played all over it. Eventually the salesman arrived. "So what do you think of this model, Sir?" Well Mike was naturally a little cautious about answering this question in light of what had happened so far and merely commented that it was "nice". The salesman realised that he was up against a hard dealer and asked "Would you like to purchase this model Sir?" Mike thought very hard about his answer this time and then said "well I only get £2 pocket money per week will that cover it mister?" The salesman leaped at Mike, dragged him from the cab and threw him of the stand screaming "Get out of here you little %*&$@#&%".
Now this time Mike was very upset. He ran around the NEC trying to find his father. When he did find him he ran up and was crying so much that his father decided they should go home. All the way home Mike lay on the back seat sniffling, not even bothering to look out of the window. When the car stopped in the farmyard Mike leaped from the car and ran upstairs to his bedroom. Pulling all the posters off the wall and collecting up all his models he ran back downstairs and out into the yard. Piling them all in the yard he set light to them. His parents just stood and watched. Then Mike announced "I'm off down to the pub" Now his parents realised that he wouldn't get into any trouble and let him go.
When Mike walked in to the pub he strolled nonchalantly up to the bar and asked for a pint of beer. Now this surprised the barman as not many 10 year old boys came in, but he gave him a pint of cold tea, knowing that Mike would never know the difference. As Mike sipped his "beer" he glanced around the bar and noticed how smoky it was. Commenting on this, the barman replied that "the chimney blows back a bit and a lot of the customers smoke. Mike contemplated on this and then announced "I can get rid of all this smoke for you". The barman just laughed and said "go on then!".
Mike took a big breath, sucking in all the smoke, and walked outside where he exhaled it. Walking back into the bar, the barman muttered "how the $%&£*~@# did you do that?"
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I never get this British humor.
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If I'd had kippers for breakfast might I be rolling on the floor?
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Are there . . . um . . . "chemical enhancements" required for the appreciation of this humor . . . or does one simply have to have been "born British" -- colonials need not apply?
Upon complaining to the barman, and receiving no noticable apology, Mr. local complained about the attitude of the barman.
Barman retorts, "well it wasn't my attitude". Geddit, my best joke!
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I would suggest that no matter what you decide on, that you seriously consider a rear discharge mulching deck. The John Deere
Pirranah deck is simply terrific.
Regards,
JRM.
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This unit, a 7100, has done a LOT of work - about 700+ hours so far. We need a 4WD because of the steep nature on part of the lot. The diesel has much more torque than a petrol. Maintenance of the mowing deck is much more problem than that of the tractor.At peak growing time it takes me 2 hours of bumpy, noisy work. I replaced the standard uncomfotable seat with a better one - see I'm into modding tractors as well as audio gear!!!
I looked at (and tested) so many different lawn tractors/mowers last year until I felt like I was going in circles trying to make a decision. I finally decided to limit my budget to <$1500 and settled on a snapper riding mower, which I've been very happy with. However, among the more expensive tractors it was the Simplicity lineup that impressed me the most. I think the Broadmor would be a great choice. It's also worth noting that several of my neighbors have John Deere lawn tractors and they are all happy with them, but they're all higher end models (i.e. not the JD line that they sell at home depot)
sjh,After bouncing around on a $899.00 Murray for 10 years I bought a Gravely 260Z 25Hp, life will never be the same. It's just like getting good audio equipment for the first time.... And it will lay a nice stripe!
Later
Kelly
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NOTHING BETTER THAN GETTING THE JOB DONE IN 4.449 SECONDS & RUNNING THE LENGTH OF THE BLOCK DOING 332.62 MPH, HOPE ITS A 1/4MAKESURE & WEAR EAR PROTECTION ONCE YOU LITE YOUR NEW TOY ITS AS LOUD AS 150+DB @ CLOSE RANGE, AND IF YOUR COMPETING AGAINST THE MORON ACCROSS THE STREET HAVE A COUPLE EXTRA FRESH MOTORS,
NO REALLY - BUY A HONDA, HONDA IS THE CROWN JEWEL OF ALL MOTOR DRIVEN DEVICES, CARS-MOTORCYLCES-MOWERS-&& OUTBOARDS, SOME MAY AURGUE GERMAN BUT THE MANTAINENCE COSTS ARE AN INSANE WASTE FOR THE COMFORT IN A CAR (THAT IS)
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Interesting times
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5 blown hemis, maybe 10,000 horsepower total.
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behind the tool shed with a puddle underneath.
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Check out the selections at Howard Price Turf Equipment - they seem to cover the spectrum very well.jim
I have no financial interest in this firm - but have seen its products in action
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You'll find out more than you ever wanted to know.
"Curiouser, and curiouser yet."Todd
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if any of you lawn-tractor jockeys have ever seen a UFO while at the wheel of your machine? I ask this because I remember reading in some magazine a few years ago an interview with the singer Tom Jones, in which he was asked if he believed in UFOs. As part of his response, he wondered why it was "...always someone named Zeke, riding on his tractor out in Nebraska or some such place, who claims to have seen these things?"Anyway, this thread got me to wondering if in fact there IS any such connection.
Tractors with PTOs are superior. The fewer belts the better but I can now change the secondary on my John Deere 210 in about a minute and a half. Over your budget, but Gravely makes some nice machines.
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While in college I mowed grass for money. We used John Deere, Scag, Walker and many others. I bought a used Walker for about $2500. I love it. It is a hydrostatic drive. You stear it with two t bars and can take 90 degree turns with it. It also has an impeller which causes suction under the deck and collects the clippings in an integral hopper in the back. This feature makes leaf removal a snap as it literally vacumes the yard. The construction is also very robust with a welded deck as opposed to a stamped one. The mower has greese fittings at all points and a full floating deck. It has a Kowasaki engine that has caused no problems.
recently did these. i was browsing the magazine yest at brother in law's house. didn't pay attention to lawn tracs, but you might learn something there. probably this month or pretty recent.
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1/2 the water, no chemicals, no maintenance. And at least 100x more interesting look.
Yes! Heavy watering and fertilizing are somewhat passe among the smart set now. If I had my way, I'd borrow one of those "real" tractors, plow up the back yard and plant wildflowers. I'm almost sorry that I responded to this thread in the first place. I drive cross town on Sunday mornings to cut my mother's grass on foot. She's a stroke victim and I don't mind saving her some money. But I'm not going to cut my three and a half acres on foot. No way. I'm no perfectionist. And I snicker at the prissy, manicured lawns of those unsatisfied with a fine, healthy sward. (Look it up, Yankee.) Far prettier are the hemlock, oak, dogwood, magnolia, big-leaf magnolia, pear, Japanese maple, redbud and crepe myrtle I've planted. One more thing: aren't you a Southerner, too, tcain? Is there anything viler than a damned amateur redneck?
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> > .) Far prettier are the hemlock, oak, dogwood, magnolia, big-leaf magnolia, pear, Japanese maple, redbud and crepe myrtle I've planted.==No doubt
> > One more thing: aren't you a Southerner, too, tcain?
==Nope. Nor'westerner
> > Is there anything viler than a damned amateur redneck?
==you mean a guy who worries about the sound of his muffler on his truck? Yup agreed.
TC
...Well, here's the story:I have a $1,200 Signature Series (Montgomery Wards) 14.5hp B&S Industrial - 42" that I've used for 12 years. Runs like a top. Minor maintenence; the usual stuff. The lawn area of my yard is around 2 - 2.5 acres; lots of little gardens in part of it, some trail mowing in the woods. I use a 7hp self-propelled for tight areas and when I want a little excercise.
Here's the funny part. My friend was a big JD guy; paid around $5,000 for his mower. Problem was he was borrowing my mower because his was down with some problem or another. He eventually traded it in for another JD. Lot's of problems with that one, too.
Then he got a $1,500 Craftsman. Told me he liked it better overall than the JD's and it was reliable. Plus, he saved a ton of coin and his lawn looks as fine as it did with his more expensive mowers (when they ran). He said the only thing missing was he couldn't brag about having an expensive JD any more when the guys started comparing their yard gear!
(I know a lot of people have fine results with JD's. That isn't the point of the story. It's about understanding and matching needs and wants to a purchase. Sounds a lot like buying audio gear, doesn't it? ; )
Lawn tractors are God's way of telling you your butt's too big. Buy a big, self-propelled Toro and get some walking exercise.
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Your idea would seem like a way to save some money.
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He may want to pull lawn cart or garden attachments.Or must restrict activity due to age,injury,diminished capability
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are Gods way of freeing up more time for my kids............and listening to my stereo.
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. . .When did "riding mowers" become "lawn tractors?" When manufacturers decided it was time to change the image for a generation that had never seen a tractor (except in movies) or planted a field plowed by mules not tractors?
To make them feel more macho and capable because they've just dropped $5K on something that will make their guts and butts bigger and their willies smaller?
We always hear that Audio is an upscale hobby. Judging from the posters that have showed up here-- NOT EXACTLY.
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