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As an automobile enthusiast who owns his own helmet and a D-SP prepped GTI, I've been reading the car threads with some interest. Ultimately, I find most of the conversations dealing with horsepower, number of gears in the transmission, etc without any mention of one's choice of rubber to be indicative of complete lack of driving skill on the part of the participant. As an example, if you guys knew anything about going fast, you'd know it's a hell of a lot easier to make up time during breaking that worrying about zero to sixty times. Why don't some of you contact your local SCCA chapters, and put your driving ability to the test? I promise it to be a humbling experience.I do think driving/cars are similar to hi-fi. Just because one chooses to invest in high performance gear is no indication of that individual being able to set it up to sound its best, just as buying a fine automobile having zero bearing on the owner's driving aptitude.
Best Wishes,
Felix
Forget all the bullshit about 6 gears in an M3. I used to drive a tractor with 48 gears! 2 brake pedals that meant i could turn it inside out on itself plus a locked diff that meant i could put it in LOW 1 and follow it up the field for miles in a straight line driving itself while i loaded sacks of potatoes on the trailer. If i saw an M3 coming towards me i'd drive on the white line and swerve about like a yokel on the cider. What fun!!
The tractor that I drove only had 6 forward gears. But it had a 10-foot wide front end loader mounted on it that used about 12 8-foot steel tines to scoop up hay bales in the field. To counter-balance the weight on the front, there was a 1/2 ton of wheel weights on the back wheels that mounted oversize 24"-wide tires that were mostly filled with water.As between the tractor and any approaching car on the road, BMW or otherwise, it was the car that chose to do the swerving.
;-}
> I find most of the conversations dealing with horsepower, number of
> gears in the transmission, etc without any mention of one's choice of
> rubber to be indicative of complete lack of drivingI mentioned traction (which as I'm sure you know is due to more than just the tires). Does that count?
But, if you just want to talk tires, I like Michelins Z=rated on my buggie (currently XGT-Zs). They are great in the dry on my car, but in the wet they really come into their own.
> As an example, if you guys knew anything about going fast, you'd know
> it's a hell of a lot easier to make up time during breaking that worrying
> about zero to sixty timesI find that brakes are most importnat to ensure one's driving pleasure. I have dual, vented Brembo's with big, dual-bore, gas-assisted, calipers. Good enough?
> Why don't some of you contact your local SCCA chapters, and put your
> driving ability to the test?No need, I'm already track-trained. Wanna race? (8-)
> just as buying a fine automobile having zero bearing on the owner's
> driving aptitude.erm, holding a driver's licence in the US is no guarantee of being actually able to, er, drive.
-Joe.
> > I mentioned traction (which as I'm sure you know is due to more than just the tires). Does that count? < <Sure it does! I thought your posts, in the automotive treads, were a nice departure from counting gears and bragging about horsepower.
> > But, if you just want to talk tires, I like Michelins Z=rated on my buggie (currently XGT-Zs). They are great in the dry on my car, but in the wet they really come into their own. < <
I *love* driving in the rain...
> > I have dual, vented Brembo's with big, dual-bore, gas-assisted, calipers. Good enough? < <
As I'm sure you've gathered from my other posts in this thread, it ain't what you've got, but what you can do with it :)
> > No need, I'm already track-trained. Wanna race? (8-) < <
I really do! Seeing how I haven't sat in the driver's seat since I broke my leg in April, I'm getting a little antsy to hit the pedals. My doc says I may be able to start driving in a month or so - can't wait.
> > erm, holding a driver's licence in the US is no guarantee of being actually able to, er, drive. < <
...better believe it!
I don't know if you've noticed, but no matter who you ask these three things may be listed as personal preferences/achievements: everyone loves music, everyone is great in bed, and everyone is a good driver. More often than not, none of the three have any bearing to reality.
Best Wishes,
Felix
> I don't know if you've noticed, but no matter who you ask these three
> things may be listed as personal preferences/achievements: everyone loves
> music, everyone is great in bed, and everyone is a good driver. More
> often than not, none of the three have any bearing to reality.and those who are really talented can manage all three at the same time.
-Joe.
I used to own it -- a 1980 Audi 5000 diesel. All of 69 righteous horsepower; great low-end torque. Absolute observed top speed (with a slight downhill grade)-- 72 mph. Realistic average cruising speed (lightly loaded, average rolling terrain, a/c off): 63 mph. Estimated 0 - 60 time: 20 seconds. However, it had great brakes and cornered quite predictably on Continental contac tires. In the mountains, I could almost make up the lost uphill time during the downhill portion of the run.My next car was a 1987 Mustang GT.
Seeing what you drive, I understand your interest in brakes. The ONLY way to hustle a FWD car around a corner is to trailbrake very heavily to unload the rear tires and hope they slip a little unless you have enough room to go early for the apex and just let the car drift wide. On a road you can't do that; maybe on a track you can. In a FWD car, the only "steering" you can do with the throttle is to make the car run wide when you open it up. RWD offers many more options and thus demands more skill. Not for the faint-hearted.
I used to timetrial a '89 MR2, and played around with an Integra on a track day. The Integra would point into the apex quite nicely with a well timed yank on the handbrake - just keep that button in, or you will have some trouble releasing the brake quickly :) Not recommended for RWD cars, though (especially MR2s and other tail-heavy ones!).JB
I don't race, but I think a FWD car is more challenging to drive fast simply because you have less options. Less options means you've got less margin for error if you get a little out of shape.
Your new moniker?Let me guess... it starts with one of those close to last letters...
> > I used to own it -- a 1980 Audi 5000 diesel. < <Last year, as I was having the GTI serviced, the shop lent be a '81 Benz 240D - *the* slowest car I've ever driven. The thing literally had trouble getting out of its own way!
> > The ONLY way to hustle a FWD car around a corner is to trailbrake very heavily to unload the rear tires and hope they slip a little unless you have enough room to go early for the apex and just let the car drift wide. < <When I aim for the apex, I know you're gonna be at least four feet wide, no matter what I do. [G]
> > RWD offers many more options and thus demands more skill. < <I'm not sure about that, Bruce. FWD and RWD, in a lose sense, demand a different set of skills - both can be very challenging. I also own a RWD also, a Miata, but choose not to run it for various reasons, not the least of which being my desire not to finish last [the class is more competitive in my area].
Best wishes,
Felix
Like something with enough HP to induce power oversteer.In case you were wondering, I bought the Audi because I believed all of the predictions made by then about the price of motorfuel in the future.
It was slightly faster than the 240D.
> > Like something with enough HP to induce power oversteer. < <Wouldn't I love that!! But...it ain't gonna happen in, at least, the next 10 yrs unless someone wants to sell me a BoxsterS for ~$25K. Like I wrote below, it's a matter of balance and driver confidence [not to metion skill], and the Miata is truly a Godsend in that regard. I can honestly tell you that I'm a hell of a lot faster in my GTI than in a friend's Mustang GT for those same reasons.
Best Wishes,
Felix
depending upon the vintage. Mine had go-kart suspension that was easily upset by bumps in a corner. (The IRS in the newest Cobra supposedly fixes that.) Brakes that were completely ineffective at speeds above 75 mph. (Newer versions have better brakes.) The stock GT was fundamentally set up to push. Even with very heavy braking, the back end stayed planted. Of course, the abundant torque from the 5 liter engine could easily break the rear end fee.Not an easy car to drive fast.
On my favorite run thru the mountains of W. Va., I am faster in my current car (SHO) than I was in the Mustang for just the reasons you cite -- and because the brakes are better, now that I replaced the stock brakes with "Baer Claws."
I have read a review of Jackson racing's supercharge setup on the previous generation Miata that was very favorable. Unlike every other Miata bolt-on for more HP, did not have bad driveability characteristics; just a little more power. I think under 7 secs. to 60. I recall it was enough to induce poweroversteer if the pilot chose to.
> > I have read a review of Jackson racing's supercharge setup on the previous generation Miata that was very favorable. Unlike every other Miata bolt-on for more HP, did not have bad driveability characteristics; just a little more power. I think under 7 secs. to 60. I recall it was enough to induce poweroversteer if the pilot chose to. < <Yea, I read that also - with a great deal of interest I might add. The price was pretty reasonable too. I'd like to see how the product works out over time, and then I might very well jump in... I have a feeling the Miata will be in our family for a long time.
Best Wishes,
Felix
"As an automobile enthusiast who owns his own helmet and a D-SP prepped GTI, I've been reading the car
threads with some interest."Wow.. great way to start a thread. Nothing like talking down to people.
So you own a helmet and a volkswagon. that makes you a know-it-all race driver.. Hahaha." Ultimately, I find most of the conversations dealing with horsepower, number of gears in the transmission, etc without any mention of one's choice of rubber to be indicative of complete lack of driving skill on the part of the participant."
It's amazing how you relate lack of driving skill just because there is no mention of rubber? Most people who race take care of the rubber right off.
Every racer knows that all the best power and suspension work in the world won't help if you can't get it to the ground."As an example, if you guys knew anything about going fast, you'd know it's a hell of a lot easier to make up time during breaking that worrying about zero to sixty times."
Oh please! What would you know about going fast driving a VW in mall parking lots? How about powering out of a turn? I suppose thats not important either. Did you ever consider a proper balance of handling, braking and power? Or are you just too self centered around your little world to see it. Ever try drag racing? I'm sure you think there is no skill involved in that.. I have a corvette that ran a 12.9 @ 111.3 mph with a 2.1 60' time in stock form. The car can also corner, brake and rides like a dream. Oh, and it was all on the stock rubber. I'm sure a set of drag radials would lower the 60' and yield a better 1/4 mile time.
" Why don't some of you contact your local SCCA chapters, and put your driving ability to the test? I promise
it to be a humbling experience."I done the X-cross parking lot stuff.. boring....
mike
> > So you own a helmet and a volkswagon. that makes you a know-it-all race driver.. Hahaha. < <Not at all, it just makes me an interested observer.
> > It's amazing how you relate lack of driving skill just because there is no mention of rubber? Most people who race take care of the rubber right off. < <Didn't you just anwer your own question?
> > Oh please! What would you know about going fast driving a VW in mall parking lots? < <One think I know for sure is that buying a fast car has no bearing on the owner being a decent pilot, as as been proven on mall parking lots many times over. Each time I see a guy with a shiny new Vette, I think 'milk toast,' and ya know what, he usually is.
> > How about powering out of a turn? < <How about it?
> > Did you ever consider a proper balance of handling, braking and power? < <...never entered my mind.
> > Ever try drag racing? < <Never. I tried running an oval once and couldn't finish a single lap - the most frightning experience of my life.
> > I'm sure you think there is no skill involved in that.. < <Wrong again, it just doesnt interest me very much; though, I do watch it on TV once in a while.
> > I have a corvette that ran a 12.9 @ 111.3 mph with a 2.1 60' time in stock form. The car can also corner, brake and rides like a dream. Oh, and it was all on the stock rubber. < <This is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't care what your car can do when someone else is driving it. What can *you* do?
> > I done the X-cross parking lot stuff.. boring.... < <You got your ass kicked, didn't you Mike?
Best Wishes,
Felix
Re:"Got your ass kicked..."LOL!
> > I have a corvette that ran a 12.9 @ 111.3 mph with a 2.1 60' time in stock form.
The car can also corner, brake and rides like a dream. Oh, and it was all on the
stock rubber. < <This is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't care what your car can do when
someone else is driving it. What can *you* do?Those are MY times. My car and me driving. I've been drag racing for over 15 years at the track. The mags review the car in the low 13's.
mike
> > Those are MY times. My car and me driving. I've been drag racing for over 15 years at the track. The mags review the car in the low 13's. < <I misunderstood, nice run. Do you ever turn the thing?
Best Wishes,
Felix
"I misunderstood, nice run. Do you ever turn the thing?"Felix... I have only done the 1320 so far. I don't have much experience on a road coruse. I recently missed an opportunity at the new Texas speedway to do a few "hot" laps. I am waiting for another chance. I need a good driving school first before I can do what the car is capable of.
My son completed driving school at road Atlanta. He finally had a chance to see what his M3 was capable of. He is trying to get me down there to do the same. He turned some good times.. I'm afraid he will show me up! I can get him good in the 1320.. I think he will toast me on the road course.
mike
> > I need a good driving school first before I can do what the car is capable of. < <[sigh] I could use a refresher course myself.
Best Wishes,
Felix
Well, the discussion of proper rubber varies greatly with duty (straight / windy course) & road surfacing (worn, concrete, wet, icy, snowy, dirty, etc). What are your priorities: reliability, adhession, durability, etc? Tweaking your selection is just as tricky as tweaking an audio system.One might as well discuss suspension systems which dictate just how well the tires are allowed to work. We were just discussing one aspect. This shows no disrepect to other criteria. One can successfully argue that power to weight ratio has nada to do with performance if there's poor weight transfer, or if the the CG is too high for its stance.
FWIW, I'm waiting for a durable tire with radial high-temperature compound threads are aligned inside a sticky low-temperature matrix. Thus, making a defacto road-friendly studding. This would use the more rugged threds to grip the valleys in the road as allowed by the matrix. The only foreseen problem would be delamination. Otherwise, conventional tires would be sticky as licks & capable of high temperature (as the soft rubber sees much less stress as the hard rubber transmits the force to the belts bypassing the softer matrix).
Also, whatever happened to resin-reinforced ABS wheels? This ought to greatly aide in maintaining consistant tractive force.
Just some thoughts ....
> > What are your priorities: reliability, adhession, durability, etc? < <Adhesion, but more importantly, predictable breakaway characteristics.
> > Tweaking your selection is just as tricky as tweaking an audio system. < <It all boil down to understanding one's individual needs. I'd much rather drive a higher profile tire simply because it gives me more control at the limit, and as a result, more confidence which allows me to go faster.
Best Wishes,
Felix
***As an automobile enthusiast who owns his own helmet and a D-SP prepped GTI, I've been reading the car threads with some interest. Ultimately, I find most of the conversations dealing with horsepower, number of gears in the transmission,Yep. All that unimportant stuff. No one needs torque either.
***etc without any mention of one's choice of rubber to be indicative of complete lack of driving skill on the part of the participant.I am sure there IS a connection, and I am straining to find one... it is just escaping me at the moment... but I am sure it will come to me...
You mean tires ARE important? You REALLY mean it? You mean the cheapest Sears (whatever on sale) with the longest wear warranty is NOT the way to go?
Wow!
***As an example, if you guys knew anything about going fast, you'd know it's a hell of a lot easier to make up time during breaking that worrying about zero to sixty times.I am sure you are right. Next time I drive from Wilmington to JFK I shall make sure I use plenty of good breaking all along that turnpike. I am really looking to shave the last 15 seconds off my best 2 hours time. You mean I should not do my usual fast in - slow out stuff? You mean the sharpest turn is NOT the way to get there soonest?
***Why don't some of you contact your local SCCA chapters, and put your driving ability to the test?And I am sure it is obvious that none of us ever did. That is something sooo obscure...
***I promise it to be a humbling experience.
No shortage of that. Do I really need another one?
***I do think driving/cars are similar to hi-fi. Just because one chooses to invest in high performance gear is no indication of that individual being able to set it up to sound its best, just as buying a fine automobile having zero bearing on the owner's driving aptitude.That is pretty profound too.
How about having and displaying some sense of humor while reading posts? How about making a presumption that some of us actually have some periferal understanding of cars that covers at least the normal C$D stuff? How about allowing for the fact that some of us might even have rebuilt the cars, tuned them, tweaked them, changed the trannies and engines (well one idiot even replaced the automatic with a manual in his BMW, making all new parts all by himself), reworked the exhausts and intakes, bent, welded and installed street-illegal headers and straight pipes, open cell filters, modified the brain box software for best acceleration (fact), spent time searching and trying the best tires, wheels, doing the plus-3 conversions, went to club events, tuned the suspensions for the best parallel slide, etc, etc, etc. Is it so hard to imagine that some of us might have garages full of engine hoists, tooks, compressors, welders... some of us have pretty well equipped machine shops in our basements. Some of us have tons of grease under our fingernails. Other than this, yes, point well taken, we know precious little about cars. We just stomp on that gas pedal.
In case you have been wondering, yes, I have done all of the above. Plus few other things.
I agree, most of us keep all that knowledge and experience to ourselves. We routinely don't tell EVERYTHING that we know.
And by the way, since you touched on this one, I really believe that my car has a better parking break than yours.
So there...
BTW, I really would not mind a good car tweak discussion if there was enough interest.
> > Yep. All that unimportant stuff. No one needs torque either. < <Torque is great, but no substitute for a competent pilot.
> > ***etc without any mention of one's choice of rubber to be indicative of complete lack of driving skill on the part of the participant.I am sure there IS a connection, and I am straining to find one... it is just escaping me at the moment... but I am sure it will come to me...
You mean tires ARE important? You REALLY mean it? You mean the cheapest Sears (whatever on sale) with the longest wear warranty is NOT the way to go? < <
Your obvious lack of reference to grip, and most importantly, *predictable* breakaway characteristics are an obvious indication of a different set of priorities. [G]
> > I am sure you are right. Next time I drive from Wilmington to JFK I shall make sure I use plenty of good breaking all along that turnpike. I am really looking to shave the last 15 seconds off my best 2 hours time. < <If highway driving is your preference, then so be it.
> > ***Why don't some of you contact your local SCCA chapters, and put your driving ability to the test?And I am sure it is obvious that none of us ever did. That is something sooo obscure... < <
I only know what I read on the board, and so far I haven't seen any references to driving techniques, or serious mentions of the impact of balance on one's preference of a given vehicle - only testosterone driven adolescent bragging dealing with HP, number of gears, and air-conditioned comfort.
> > ***I do think driving/cars are similar to hi-fi. Just because one chooses to invest in high performance gear is no indication of that individual being able to set it up to sound its best, just as buying a fine automobile having zero bearing on the owner's driving aptitude.That is pretty profound too. < <
Thank you. It also happens to be true.
> > How about having and displaying some sense of humor while reading posts? < <Victor, I constantly laugh at people's posts.
> > How about making a presumption that some of us actually have some periferal understanding of cars that covers at least the normal C$D stuff? < <...so far I haven't seen any.
> > How about allowing for the fact that some of us might even have rebuilt the cars, tuned them, tweaked them, changed the trannies and engines (well one idiot even replaced the automatic with a manual in his BMW, making all new parts all by himself), reworked the exhausts and intakes, bent, welded and installed street-illegal headers and straight pipes, open cell filters, modified the brain box software for best acceleration (fact), spent time searching and trying the best tires, wheels, doing the plus-3 conversions, went to club events, tuned the suspensions for the best parallel slide, etc, etc, etc. Is it so hard to imagine that some of us might have garages full of engine hoists, tooks, compressors, welders... some of us have pretty well equipped machine shops in our basements. Some of us have tons of grease under our fingernails. < <Apples and oranges, Victor - none of the above come close to influencing one's ability to make time like driving skill. Personally, I hate to get my hands dirty [grease under fingernails does nothing for me], I just drive. Though I have a decent degree of mechanical understand - enough to get me by - my preference lies in exploring the limits behind the wheel, not in tinkering or going in a straight line.
> > I agree, most of us keep all that knowledge and experience to ourselves. We routinely don't tell EVERYTHING that we know. < <Unlike audio which is driven by personal preference - we've all heard systems we didn't care for, but which the owner greatly enjoyed - driving prowess can be measured with a stopwatch. This is one of the reasons I mostly don't like to talk about cars, but some of the comments truly inspired me.
> > And by the way, since you touched on this one, I really believe that my car has a better parking break than yours. < <I think your car has better breaks all around - getting the most out them is a whole 'nother matter.
> > BTW, I really would not mind a good car tweak discussion if there was enough interest. < <I'd rather talk about Hi-Fi, but I figured a car discussion beats most of the snore inducing threads up on the board at the moment.
Best Wishes,
Felix
***You mean tires ARE important? You REALLY mean it? You mean the cheapest Sears (whatever on sale) with the longest wear warranty is NOT the way to go? < <***Your obvious lack of reference to grip, and most importantly, *predictable* breakaway characteristics are an obvious indication of a different set of priorities. [G]
Well, if you have to ask... I am sure you know that it is not just the tire, but the whole shmear (sp?) - shocks, bars, springs, wheels, tires, weight balance that are responsible for that. When I changed the whole suspension block on my older car, I installed a *very* stiff huge Dinan bar in the front, and added a rear bar too. As you know, the rear bar means happy tail, but this one was adjustable. The front of the car would not move if you leaned on it at all - it was rock stiff. So I kept making adjustments to the rear bar until I got about the right amount of parallel slide - in a large empty parking lot. I also played with tire pressure during this time and I don't recall the final numbers, but something like 40psi in the rear 255's, with about 34 in the 235 fronts.
Now, does this fullfill my tire discussion obligation for today?
> > I am sure you are right. Next time I drive from Wilmington to JFK I shall make sure I use plenty of good breaking all along that turnpike. I am really looking to shave the last 15 seconds off my best 2 hours time. < <If highway driving is your preference, then so be it.
On my way to JFK it IS.
> > ***Why don't some of you contact your local SCCA chapters, and put your driving ability to the test?And I am sure it is obvious that none of us ever did. That is something sooo obscure... < <
I only know what I read on the board, and so far I haven't seen any references to driving techniques, or serious mentions of the impact of balance on one's preference of a given vehicle -
You mean the boring stuff like the "line", the slow-in's, the hill-and-toe, the left foot breaking, the proper downshifting and double clutching? What specifically would you like to know about them?
***only testosterone driven adolescent bragging dealing with HP,HP is good!
***number of gears,That is good too!!!
*** and air-conditioned comfort.And boy, do I love this one!!!!!!
> > How about allowing for the fact that some of us might even have rebuilt the cars, tuned them, tweaked them, changed the trannies and engines (well one idiot even replaced the automatic with a manual in his BMW, making all new parts all by himself), reworked the exhausts and intakes, bent, welded and installed street-illegal headers and straight pipes, open cell filters, modified the brain box software for best acceleration (fact), spent time searching and trying the best tires, wheels, doing the plus-3 conversions, went to club events, tuned the suspensions for the best parallel slide, etc, etc, etc. Is it so hard to imagine that some of us might have garages full of engine hoists, tooks, compressors, welders... some of us have pretty well equipped machine shops in our basements. Some of us have tons of grease under our fingernails. < <***Apples and oranges, Victor - none of the above come close to influencing one's ability to make time like driving skill.
Well, you mentioned before the lack uf understanding of car dynamics and design aspects that this group has displayed. I believe my answer should take care of that. If now you want to talk about *driving*, we can switch to that.
***Personally, I hate to get my hands dirty [grease under fingernails does nothing for me], I just drive. Though I have a decent degree of mechanical understand - enough to get me by - my preference lies in exploring the limits behind the wheel, not in tinkering or going in a straight line.Patronizing patronizing again. You are NOT the only one who loves them turns and knows how to take them.
> > I agree, most of us keep all that knowledge and experience to ourselves. We routinely don't tell EVERYTHING that we know. < <***Unlike audio which is driven by personal preference - we've all heard systems we didn't care for, but which the owner greatly enjoyed - driving prowess can be measured with a stopwatch.
Things like engine roar play super-important role here. HP people knew my car's voice -headers, straight pipes and all. All part of fun.
***I'd rather talk about Hi-Fi, but I figured a car discussion beats most of the snore inducing threads up on the board at the moment.You want Hi-Fi - you go to the main board, you whimp. This is the manly catch-all no holds barred outhouse for REAL tough guys.
How was that?
> > Now, does this fullfill my tire discussion obligation for today? < <...it's getting better.
> > If now you want to talk about *driving*, we can switch to that. < <Not really. Now that mikem's entered the discussion, I think I'll kick him around for a while.
> > Patronizing patronizing again. < <C'mon Victor! Pot, cattle, black...
> > ***Unlike audio which is driven by personal preference - we've all heard systems we didn't care for, but which the owner greatly enjoyed - driving prowess can be measured with a stopwatch.Things like engine roar play super-important role here. HP people knew my car's voice -headers, straight pipes and all. All part of fun. < <
There's nothing like the sound of a nicely tuned automobile, that's for sure.
> > You want Hi-Fi - you go to the main board, you whimp. This is the manly catch-all no holds barred outhouse for REAL tough guys. < <That's the problem, Victor. Too many get their panties in a twist when I talk audio on the main boards. Since we're all tough here, why not have a frank audio discussion?
> > How was that? < <Oh, I *know* you can do better than that!
Best Wishes,
Felix
***That's the problem, Victor. Too many get their panties in a twist when I talk audio on the main boards. Since we're all tough here, why not have a frank audio discussion?You seem to have something stuck in your throat. Let us see it.
But it better be good...
> > ***That's the problem, Victor. Too many get their panties in a twist when I talk audio on the main boards. Since we're all tough here, why not have a frank audio discussion?You seem to have something stuck in your throat. Let us see it.
But it better be good... < <
Victor, if I had any problems with your audio related comments on the main boards, I would have already posted to that effect. I was speaking in a general sense. To be honest, I don't really see much point to discussing much of anything if the six or seven usual suspects are involved [ok, I'd probably be tempted to spin Mart around for a while, but that's about the extent of it]; even mikem is turning out to be a decent guy. I'm simply hoping that talking about audio, other than being an area of personal and communal interest, would bring some freah meat Outside.
Best Wishes,
Felix
...so I don't see much need for protracted introducitons.When you have something ready, dump it on us.
Perhaps when we finally succeed in our lobbying and get that direct button, more folks will start attending. In the meantime you can spread the word.
Telling Felix to regurgitate ... I bow to the alpha male. How can you walk with those cojones?
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Actually, I had one of my brothers do it. He put in a truck 318 with heads from a 360. Unfortunately, I had to use a 340's cam. The 360 was too large to work right. The exhaust was from a 400+ engine along with the starter. Plus, I asked for dome pistons for more compression.Then, I asked for a limited slip differential (not the positraction for mileage reasons) with street gears. He said that he knew of a 12-bolt that had my name on it.
Also, I asked him to put in one of those amps for the ignition system with high-performance wiring, but that was out of his league. So, he snagged one of his mechanic friends, who've stayed in the field, for that. Fortunately, he also knew a cheap tweak that fixed the notorious Mopar poor winter starting problem.
After all that, my bro recommended this enormous 2-barrel carb. He indicated that it was exactly what I was looking for with my balance of performance to efficiency ratio.
...you still have not mentioned the tires.Me, I have two cars, one (smaller) with Yoko's (that new super-duper top of the line design, don't recall the model), another with Sumitomos. All Z-rated, of course.
I don't go over 17" for practical reason - too many potholes. I once severely bent both wheels on one side hitting a hole covered with water at about 45mph. The 17" Borbets (the classic A-type) seem to take it well and last. They also allow some hammering to get them straight again - I had to do this several times. They don't crack like some cheap cast alloys.
I always liked the Dunlops D40M2's before, for the reason that they NEVER squeeled. They stick to the road dead when dry, but are bad under rain. This time I decided to try the Sumitomo's - the new model with modern design. I love them even more, they are completely quiet, especially at high speed, comfortable but take tight turns exceptionally well. 235's in front, and I had to go with 245's in the back, they don't have the 255 size. But the slide balance is very good, almost perfect, as close to paralel on dry road as you probaby hope in a "normal" street car.
> They stick to the road dead when dry, but are bad under rainYep, that's a good definition of Dunlops. I tried some years aho on my old Coupe. Truly scary in the wet.
-Joe.
Would you believe the mechanic put 3 of the tires on backwards. I showed him how the unidirectional tires were supposed to work on the properly mounted tire. Then, stopped him before he remounted all 3. He couldn't understand how swapping 2 wrong tires on opposing sides of the car would help until he actually did it.
At the tire place across the street, they put the wide tires on the front of the M3. Nuff said...
I was considering Perreli with those large channels but decided the haringbone design would induce much less vibration (considering a gear analog). This robs power, gas, & consistant pressure needed for solid traction.Did you understand the reworded thread below? I didn't know which terms you didn't understand, but gave it a shot...
> > I always liked the Dunlops D40M2's before, for the reason that they NEVER squeeled. < <That's because you weren't going fast enough.
Best Wishes,
Felix
...maybe I DID come down harder than I should have on you.If that's so, then I appologize. Presume a softer tone, but the substance remains the same.
> > ...maybe I DID come down harder than I should have on you. < <Don't worry about it, Victor, I have a pretty thick skin.
...or is this a sign of the new Outside? If it is, I don't like it. [G]
Best Wishes,
Felix
> > ...maybe I DID come down harder than I should have on you. < <
***Don't worry about it, Victor, I have a pretty thick skin.Cool. I suspected you did.
***...or is this a sign of the new Outside? If it is, I don't like it. [G]
I would not worry about it. I think we can be tough without being simply gratuitously rude.
Felix,I enjoy the challenge, wit, and sometimes left hook of your post. ;)
Keep it up.Thanks,
Tom
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