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In Reply to: Re: MTBE posted by PaulN on June 27, 2000 at 09:13:24:

Hi,
correct me if i'm wrong; but we seem to be debating this enviromental issue. And, as long as we are, there are lots of questions unanswered about MBTE exposure. The possibility exists that this will turn out to be quite serious. But i doubt it; assuming of course that we stop using it soon.
There have been many disasters where you wind up stacking, and burying, in mass graves. Can you give me one dead body?
There have been a number of occasions, concerning substances like Alar, and Fluoride, where people got very excited. But after the shouting stopped; the hard data to back those threats never materialised.

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reality, is too frightening for most. PaulN 12:38:05 06/27/00 (1)
Yes, but there have been an equal number where the bodies just took awhile to find: ddt, organophosphates, lead, selenium, cadmium, radon, etc. While you are correct that the situation isn't yet completely out of hand, its the potential for it that has me concerned. It often take a generation to see the damage from the abject lack of forsight so common in America. Thalidamide was an approved drug, asbestos was a common insulation, lead oxide paint was the first used to whitewash fences (and how American is that?) Heavy metals are elements for God sakes (so they can't be bad, right?)I personally think there is a correlation between Epstein-Barr and environmental chemical exposure. We swim in a veritable soup of organics daily, some that are quite foreign to living things and can't be metabolized. The compounding of the compounds so-to-speak.
PTFE is toxic when ingested, how many millions of non-stick pans out there are poisoning people as they flake their coating off? Part of the problem is perception like yours; if I can't physically show you the dead bodies you arent going to sweat it. And why should you, after all the manufacturers, oil companies and federal gov't all have your safety as their first priority. I know its hard to get riled up when you have lived a bit, and have the beauty of Maine around you; but be thankful someone out there is, chicken-little or not.
- i don't know late 13:05:00 06/27/00 (0)
  Hi,
  reverse order:
  a) Rabble rouse to your hearts content; it's a free country.
  b) PFTE- if, and let me repeat that because there is a burden of proof, if
  the stuff is getting into our bodies in significant amounts avoid it.
  Truth in advertising, i have no problem with teflon ( i mix pure PFTE into bicycle chain degreaser to make my own one step oil-free chain clean/lube) But... my pans are all the regular olf fashioned kind. Cast iron (actually not the kitschy massive ones, the regular kind) frying pans are my favorite.
  c) almost certainly there is some synergistic poisoning going on; and i wouldn't mind if we did a bit more reasearch into that.
  d) quite true, it could be a slow, but certain, threat. But my assumption is that the we will stop the use of it; and then it's ability to dissipate
  becomes an advantage as it dilutes itself to PPB

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