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In Reply to: RE: Hold it!!! posted by cpotl on October 03, 2014 at 21:14:27
"I don't think Richard Clark is trying to trick anybody. He has simply realised what others should have done also, that the audiophile talk is sometimes lacking in solid backing. He is (or was) offering $10,000 to anyone who could prove him wrong. And thousands tried, and failed."Chris,
do you really believe that if one wants offering $ 10000 for noting, he would not be sure of not trowing away money and, in the same time, supporting his interest? Who participated has only supported the idea that, in this play, differences are not perceivable. Should such a constant outcome attributable to sonic identity of amplifiers? You would say "yes". My interpretation is, instead, that these differences exist, but they are masked by the effect of the same tools that are claimed to be exploited for producing more objective results. Lew argued already on that.
Roberto
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"My interpretation is, instead, that these differences exist, but they are masked by the effect of the same tools that are claimed to be exploited for producing more objective results."
The trouble is that this kind of response sounds hauntingly reminiscent of the response of a spoon-bender or a mind-reader when a scientist's investigation fails to confirm the occurrence of the claimed phenomenon.
I think there is a serious point here, which cannot be simply brushed aside, namely that without the benefit of the visual and other cues one normally has, it can be astonishingly difficult to hear the differences that one believes exist between different amplifiers.
Chris
"...this kind of response sounds hauntingly reminiscent of the response of when a scientist's investigation fails to confirm the occurrence of the claimed phenomenon."I would say better: "...when a scientist's investigation succeeds in falsifying the occurrence of the claimed phenomenon".
I simply said that, however and for sure, I would give the same answer that Ms Clark expects by his tests. Why are you not happy for that? But you should concede that in science it matters to interpret the phenomenon that occurred during these tests, i.e, that no differences were perceived. You repute a spoon-bender or a mind-reader who hypothesizes that other causes would explain the sonic identity. But, why are we forced to eat the meal that Mr Clark (and you) are offering?
Roberto
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