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In Reply to: RE: How much do you know about tuba sound: CSO's tuba posted by Tadlo on December 19, 2016 at 10:42:18
Two questions....
I don't see mention of the name of the manufacturer.... Do you know by chance?
And did the manufacturer build other such instruments?
I don't know if the tuba was used in the Decca Solti/CSO Berlioz "Symphonie Fantastique" (the best performance IMO to make recording), but I do recall the articulation of the tuba in "March to the Scaffold", which I thought was spine-chilling. The tuba playing was phenomenal here.
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But decided to give Todd's recommendation a try
The one I recommend is the one below...........
By the way, this performance is on YouTube..... But the tuba gets lost in the digitization..... But it's spine-chilling on vinyl.
1. Pokorny did not mention the name of company that made the tubas.
2. The CSO has owned the tubas for several decades. They take one on the tours that the orchestra takes; Pokory said that the tuba rides first class and he rides coach. So I would assume that it is the tuba you hear in the Symphonie Fantastique recording.
Another tid bit: Pokorny said that he has been with the CSO since 1989, except for one year in the 90's when he left for a job with the Los Angeles Philharmonic. He is from California and wanted to be closer to his family and roots. After a year he came back to Chicago because he loved playing with the CSO so much more.
York is the name of the maker. The Fantastique was recorded in Krannert? auditorium at the University of Ill Urbana as was the Solti Mahler 7th around the same time. These are among the best sounding of the Decca recordings as the hall is not so dry. However they still have the unnatural extreme stereo effect. Both these recordings illustrate the unique immediacy of resonance and vocal quality to the CSO brass. The orchestra played the Berlioz at Carnegie earlier and the 2nd tuba remarked that he would take 4 breaths on the last note to keep up with Jacobs upper octave.
Wasn't the Beethoven 9th also recorded at the Krannert auditorium?
Yes, the first Solti/CSO Beethoven 9th (the one with Pilar Lorengar as the soprano) was recorded at Krannert in the 70s. I don't know about the second Beethoven 9th (with Jessye Norman, from the mid-80s).
Well, no tuba in either version :)
gets special mention in the bonus rehearsal recording included in Ansermet's (1967?) reading of the Fantastique with the Suisse Romande on Decca/London. Ansermet encourages Barnsteiner to let loose with a passage, then utters what sounds like an enthusiastic "all riiiiight!" (and rightly so) when Barnsteiner finishes.
Jim
http://jimtranr.com
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