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In Reply to: RE: It just doesn't work that way though in todays classical music scene posted by Analog Scott on August 13, 2016 at 08:04:51
If this is the deal that DG and other major labels are offering, then they wouldn't do it if there wasn't some take-up. It's as simple as that.So even if theoretically you could say that "it doesn't make sense" for the artists, it has to make some kind of sense if they are taking the deal.
The truth is that there aren't any really good deals for artists these days - musicians or writers are good examples - unless you are absolutely top tier and can dictate terms. We've gone over this ground often enough.
Publicity and credibility is everything when you are trying to climb that slippery ladder, and being signed by a major label is one of the ways to get a step up. Not the only way and maybe not even the best these days. You can win competitions and you can be a Youtube hit and you can also be a bit of a media celebrity if you're good looking or distinctive - there are various ways of doing it. But doing nothing about publicity isn't really an option in this media saturated world.
Add to that the fact that there are other factors involved other than "a good deal". I'm a published author - 5 books. My advances and royalties have been completely slashed since 1994 when I first published - that's life for authors these days. I'd probably make more money if I self published, but I carry on writing for publishers like HarperCollins and Methuen. For a start, it's simpler and they have good editors and I'm not ashamed to admit that there's a degree of vanity involved.
It doesn't have to be "the best deal" for artists to take it - it just has to be a deal they want for their own reasons.
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Who on the DG label is covering the cost of recording and paying DG 10% of their concert fees? I personally know one person who absolutely is not.
I would be very surprised to find out that *any* of DG's marquee artists are paying anything to DG for either recording costs or a percentage of their concert fees.
And then what's left? Newbes and wannabes? Which of them have the cash sans an established career to finance a DG recording session?
I am skeptical of this scheme. I am skeptical that it would work for the artists in any way and I am skeptical that anyone other than a few suckers who were badly represented by their management or didn't have management in place took this deal with DG.
And if they did manage to sucker any artists into this lose lose deal i am confident that it would be a one and done. No resigning.
All I can say is that my source is a a concert artist who is close to a lot of things in the music business. I have no difficulty in believing him. If you don't believe any of this that's entirely up to you, though I don't buy a lot of your reasoning at all.
As I said all along, this is about new artists and not established DG artists. I have no difficulty in believing they're on different terms entirely, especially the big names.
I just think it's such a crap deal for artists that it's bordering on being a scam and I doubt that any artists of note would take this deal. If DG has suckered some new artists with this deal those artists have my deepest sympathy and I wish them a quick financial recovery.
It would be a shame for any artist to pay for recordings that will likely never recoupe their costs and then give up 10% of their real income to do so with little hope of getting anything out of it
I know a few DG artists personally. They are not paying DG for recording costs and they are not paying DG any percentage of their concert fees.
what reasoning are you not buying and why?
I know a few DG artists personally. They are not paying DG for recording costs and they are not paying DG any percentage of their concert fees. > >If you were accused of stealing a sheep and one witness saw you do it, how useful would it be to produce 25 people that didn't see you do it?
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Got anything more than that? I hope....
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