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In Reply to: RE: He makes his opinions into fact- A is good, B is bad. posted by oldmkvi on April 22, 2016 at 09:06:20
So far his recent posts are restrained compared to the Severius of old. Better get used to it. Judging from his previous iteration he'll be posting for quite a while.
If you're gonna continue to respond I suggest keeping a bottle of Prilosec handy.
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I guess I'll just have to let him be him.
He.
Whatever...
In his first incarnation, he used the moniker SPL. Do a little search and see what his posts looked like then. His manners have (marginally) improved since then.
Happy listening,
Jim
"The passage of my life is measured out in shirts."
- Brian Eno
And, that you've followed my writing over these [now] decades, even going as far back as my SPL days.
I hope that you've benefited from my posts.
Severius! Supremus Invictus
I was 100% correct almost every time. Even when I erred - as I said back then - my errors were more correct and valuable as music teaching than the 'correct' ideas of others.
BUT - there was a huge difference. The crowd frequenting this site back then were musically uneducated and illiterate. They knew almost nothing about music. I had long, endless battles just trying to prove the value of learning music theory and music history. Almost everyone back then was extremely hostile to the very suggestion of that.
The guys around here back then would form the most erroneous conclusions about music on the basis of their lack of knowledge, fortified by their attempt to understand what they were reading in liner notes. That's why I would call them 'musically ignorant, with a CD player and a boatload of opinions'.
That problem's almost disappeared around here now. Many of the guys here know way, way more about music than I do. I no longer have to BATTLE ignorance as I did back then. Heck, the moderator - Chris - is a professional pianist!
We have guys who can read scores and who - and this's absolutely key - understand harmony and therefore can - and do - therefore analyze scores. One such guy's an enemy and a pest - but I'd hands-down rather deal with him every time than with some guys who knows zero - but who defends to the death some massively erroneous conclusion based on lack of training.
But, life on earth's never easy. No garden of Eden - ever. You git that after you die [tho probably not in the form you're expecting]. That's why certain politicians promising a sudden "golden tomorrow" make me laugh. I've seen it all before.
So, problems here remain - and I MUST FIGHT THEM. What problems? Hah. Well, let's jest start with the legitimacy of HIPs, for openers.
Severius! Supremus Invictus
Your posts have been less offensive lately.
My reading is just slow.
I learned violin in 4th grade, and [obviously], that's when music reading began. But, I had no talent for playing. None.
In college, I almost minored in music. Coursework included harmony & counterpoint, solfege, history, and piano. But, playing was horrible. I had to quit after a year.
Severius! Supremus Invictus
You have my sympathy when it comes to lack of talent. Music has long been one of the most important and enjoyable things in my life, but, after years of piano lessons and some modest success playing the double bass, it became obvious that my best instrument would be the record player.
As for Beethoven's First Symphony, I don't have all the readings you have reviewed, but I do have several and am in general agreement with your comments.
BTW - I didn't review the music. Hardly qualified to do so. That's for professionals.
However, I did engage in what we all love to do - compare different recordings. Well, at least it seems that you enjoy doing. I love it.
Glad we have common ground in this piece.
Severius! Supremus Invictus
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I just listened to Scherchen's Beethoven 1st, and alas, I suspect it isn't for Mr. Newey, if nothing else due to the reduced-size orchestra, though I suspect that was due to recording studio requirements and not Scherchen's artistic decision. You might say that gives it a bit of a HIP feel, though this is no HIP performance in terms of instruments, tuning, etc.
What I like about Scherchen is his ability to produce rhythmic energy without rushing the tempos. Elsewhere in this thread some orchestral players talk about how many of the details one hears are in the control of the players, not the conductor. But I think the conductor contributes a lot to the overall shape and feel, even when he didn't personally hand pick the players, as Toscanini and Szell did. Anyway, I've always been a Scherchen fan. His is a style I don't often hear today.
Still looking forward to his Berlioz and Rimsky. Can you imagine his Schererazade? Can't wait.
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