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In Reply to: RE: I thought you had learned your lesson... posted by ahendler on November 18, 2015 at 15:30:58
I'm kind of wondering what kind of contorted logic twists my comments into "hatred for women", but I guess that's just me. ;-)
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When women say that calling them babe is really disliked and insulting to them then you don't respect there feelings. And when you don't respect there feelings it really says you don't give a damn about them.
Alan
Actually, I rank feminist theorists at about the same level as I do ancient alien theorists on the History Channel ;-)
I just asked my wife if she would be offended if someone called her a babe, and she said, "No" - even though she's tired of so many babe musicians on recordings these days. In fact, if you check old posts on this forum (I think around three or four years ago), you'll run across a thread where an earlier offendee accused the babers of lustful fantasies regarding these snowflake musicians and that not one of us would dare post a picture of our actual wives. However, I was up to the challenge and posted a picture of my wife and me at a Turkish restaurant in London. Everybody agreed that she was indeed a babe. I mentioned this to her and she was kind of amused, even though she doesn't believe me when I tell her, even at the age of 62, she's still a babe! ;-)
woman hater
> > > "When women say that calling them babe is really disliked and insulting to them then you don't respect there feelings. And when you don't respect there feelings it really says you don't give a damn about them."
And do tell...."WHEN" exactly have any of the classical musicians complained about Chris calling them "babe musicians?"
He does admit to never calling Babe directly to there face. Why?
Alan
Well you see, my relationship with our local babe musicians is on a professional (not friendly, not social) basis (even though the professional relationship can eventually become very friendly indeed - I could tell you stories!). I don't call these girls/women "babes" to their faces (even though I don't think anything is wrong with that) for the same reason I don't call the guys I work with "boy-babes" or "hunks". It's just not correct in a professional situation. Another example might be bank tellers, who don't call their customers who walk up to the window "babes" or "hunks" either! ;-)Moreover, as one poster (sorry, I forget who) has already stated, certain terminology is fine when one is writing, while it's more restricted when one is interacting professionally. I'm about to post on a topic which might illustrate this difference.
EDIT: I just deleted that subsequent post, having decided it really serves no useful purpose and just might get people riled up again. ;-)
Edits: 11/20/15
What does that have to do with my question? You seem to be all worked up over a nonexistent issue.
As I note in my post above, I've told my own wife she's a babe.
What I want to know is why this seems to be such a hot button issue for you. I never seen you post with more emotion about any other topic. Did you possibly have a traumatic experience when some woman was called a babe and she didn't like it? IOW, I'd like to know your experience(s) on this subject too.
No issues. With all the politics going on and so much meaness, bigotry and racism being spued all over the airwaves it would be nice to have a discussion group where that doesn't happen. I am extremely passionate about music, audio equipment and table tennis so I just want this to be a fun place to come to.
Alan
In other online discussion forums there is a banned behavior called 'thread crapping.'
This is when people who have no interest in the thread topic make negative posts and ruin the enjoyment of the thread participants who enjoy discussing whatever the thread topic is. When people 'thread crap' the forum moderators issue a warning to them and if they persist they are banned from further posting.
Needless to say, if such a rule existed here, most if not all of the anti-babers would no longer be allowed to post.
Forum members who enjoy participating in 'babe musician' threads should be allowed to do so peacefully without coming under attack from the anti-babe contingent, and maybe the forum moderators could ensure that that happens.
There was really no way of telling Alan was unhappy with your babe posts from his 11 contributions to the Janine Jansen thread. If people don't speak up, you can't be blamed for soldiering on.
I was very clear about how I felt and feel.
I thought that Chris said he was going to stop. Even talked about using "snowflake". But I guess not. How about calling them Female Violinists. What is so hard about that?
Alan
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