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In Reply to: RE: nice try but a clear fail. posted by Analog Scott on November 17, 2015 at 18:38:34
"So what should actually be obvious to anyone with a reasonable grasp of the English language is that Chris is clearly talking about *his Babe posts* being equated with "Cat-calls."
No shit!!!
As I said in the post directly above, that is exactly how I read it and because I DIDN'T say that I restated what I DID say (in reference to "hotties as opposed to his posts), because I objected to him attempting to put words in my mouth.
Dave
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Here is the current argument you are having with yourself
David Smith version 1: "Because HE brought up "catcalls", an obvious reference to my post to you."
David Smith version 2: "No shit!!!" (aparent agreement with the following)"So what should actually be obvious to anyone with a reasonable grasp of the English language is that Chris is clearly talking about *his Babe posts* being equated with "Cat-calls."
just to help mediate this argument you are having with yourself and to make sure you understand you.... If Chris is specifically and clearly talking about **his babe posts** being equated with "cat-calls" he clearly is NOT referencing your post to me. That post makes no reference whatsoever to "hotties" and in fact my post about "hotties" actually was made about 3 hours **after** your post to me. There is no connection.
So which David are you going with? Version 1 or version 2? At this point this is kind of like a rubix cube and I feel compelled to solve it.
I enjoy puzzles.
"That post makes no reference whatsoever to "hotties" and in fact my post about "hotties" actually was made about 3 hours **after** your post to me."
The post to you that I have been referring to all along was in response to your post mentioning "hotties", where I asked if you work in construction. Chris's post about catcalls was made after that one. So I have no idea what post you're talking about 3 hours before your "hotties" post, it has no relevance here whatever it is.
Dave
Why do you think he used the term "catcalls", which otherwise doesn't previously appear anywhere in this thread?
As I said, again...., I read that term in a post to me as a clear reference to my post to you, but with a distortion as my comment was not directed at him.
This is all such a stupid exercise, as I said a million posts ago I don't, wouldn't and didn't attribute "hotties" to him. That is my position and always has been. You'd like to argue in the hopes of suggesting that in one post I did actually do that, though none of my words suggest it, for who knows what satisfaction you get out of it. And you'll argue at least another 30 posts I'm sure. I will not stand for people distorting what I said whether it's you or Chris. I don't know how I could possibly be more clear, Chris seemed to accept that at the first post. If Chris's "catcalls" comment wasn't in reference to my post to you, I'd love to hear why he used that term, but I'd happily accept that he was telling me about someone ELSE equating his posts with catcalls, as odd as that would seem. In any case, I have no need for distorting anyone's words.
Such silliness.
Dave
That may very well be the way you meant it. It was hardly obvious to those of us who reside outside of your head.
Either way it was meant as a joke about who brought the word hotties into the conversation.
Sooooo much of this thread has been about making fun of the subject. If you are taking it all seriously I am genuinely sorry for the misunderstanding. I assure you that all of my comments have been meant to be fun, funny and in a few cases informative but none of them have been meant to be malicious towards you, other posters or women in general. I guess it is the nature of internet forums that such humor often falls between the cracks and posts are taken way too literally and waaaaaay too seriously.
I have no doubt that you are nice and decent guy who loves music as much as the rest of us and would be a cool dude to hang around with. I think maybe you and I and you and Chris just don't get each other in this format of communication.
Now as for my comment that the young good looking women I personally know who are classical musicians preferring to be called hotties or hot rather than babes I'd like to address a few points.
1. It was meant to be funny and ironic on it's face. Of course one might find it offensive if one is not getting that intention. I thought *that* was obvious. I guess it wasn't.
2. It is particularly ironic because it is also actually true. This is actually how they talk. It is current jargon among young folks these days. I assure you that telling a young attractive women that she is hot or calling her a hottie when done in the right context with the right level of personal familiarity is not degrading or objectifying. And most importantly it isn't taken that way by these young ladies. It's banter that actually happens without anyone being offended or feeling objectified. It is actually a compliment.
Believe me, the banter gets an awful lot more risque and downright offensive were it taken seriously. Calling one another hot or hottie is just scratching the surface compared to other things said in fun.
Regarding your "hotties" post I did not see previous use of that on this thread so yes, missed the reference/humor and my apologies for that.I think you are right about this form of communication.
As for part 2 I am familiar with women, including a number who are notable performers. I am also quite familiar with how they feel about discussions of their looks accompanying discussions of their playing, particularly those that are considered more attractive. Of course the context matters a great deal and a compliment is worlds different than repeated experiences of their looks being mentioned and attached to any comments about their playing or career, a la "babe thread". While they probably wouldn't take offense to playful use of the term "hottie" from a personal friend, guys on an internet forum, not so much.
I appreciate the post, as in most cases I think we could get along fine in person, it's odd that it's so much different on the internet.
Dave
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