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In Reply to: RE: Yeah - I suspected this kind of artificial support posted by rbolaw on May 18, 2015 at 20:53:58
I agree that Schwartz had a great talent, but on the trumpet, not on the podium, where IMHO he was at best merely OK.
Alas, you're right: you can't ignore money.
Hey, JEGgy - Self satisfied much?
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Chris, how could you?
Gordon Getty reminds me of King Frederick the Great of Prussia, who was a great patron of music and a decent amateur composer in his own right. But if Frederick was not a king (and a major patron of J.S. Bach) I doubt his music would be as well remembered.As for Gerard Schwarz, no question he's a great trumpet player. As a conductor, imo he made some good records with the Seattle Symphony, and before that was very good with the Y Chamber Symphony in New York. But he seems to be an old-fashioned hard-line disciplinarian, and that just doesn't work well for conductors these days.
Nikisch supposedly charmed players, audiences and patrons alike, and that seems to be the better approach these days. Though he also allegedly didn't believe in rehearsals or studying the score, and I don't think conductors could get away with that so easily now.
Edits: 05/20/15
. . . since he's a patron of other worthwhile endeavors (e.g., the Pentatone label, the SF Symphony, etc.), aside from his own music. My reference was to John Eliot Gardiner (JEGgy), whose wealth, I understand, allows for his undeserved prominence in the musical world. (Yeah, I know he has fans here!) I guess he's sometimes known as Jiggy too (see link below) - and apparently he hates that nickname (which is a good reason for us to continue to use it!).
Oh for the days of Ernest Chausson, who felt that his own wealth gave him an unfair advantage over other composers, and to "level the playing field", he actually suppressed some performances of his own music!
I'm unapologetically a fan of his Bach Cantata series that he released on his own label after DG dumped it. He's just too HIP(!) for you, Chris ;)
He's also supposed to be quite the iron fist in rehearsals...
Surprised these are still available.
Only 12 left, and at the current $$$ exchange rate a bargain, I'd say!
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"I'm right here, Chris. Just buy my box set linked below."
Edits: 05/21/15
Sorry, couldn't resist. This record was just sitting there, right next to me. Nice recording, BTW.
I read your post far too quickly. I thought you meant Gordon Getty -- he even looks like John Eliot Gardiner, and I never saw the term JEGgy before. But his wealth doesn't surprise me. Historically many top conductors, especially European ones, came from wealth. Beecham was born into it, Toscanini married into it. Nowadays, it's more about fundraising skill and contacts, i.e., access to wealth, though I'm sure being rich still helps.
However, neither Gardiner, nor Alsop, nor Schwarz, nor anyone else today, holds a candle to Valery Gergiev, who has access to Vladimir Putin's bottomless pockets. I'm lukewarm about Gergiev, though I like his take on certain repertoire, especially the romantic and modern Russians. But his continued success is a sure thing.
. . . the conductor that Gardiner and Alsop are. ;-)
I know this is a bit off topic, but I saw something amusing about Putin's gal in the Crimea, Attorney General and Chief Prosecutor Natalia Poklonskaya. She's on the "wanted" list in the Ukraine, and I guess she held a press conference recently whose sole purpose seemed to be "come and get me" taunting (link below). I love babe prosecutors!
"What? Just several?"
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