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In Reply to: RE: Met an in-law family's friend who has an amazing collection of 78s: posted by tinear on July 15, 2014 at 20:05:43
mostly based in Asian countries. Gives a new meaning to specialist, and specialty market.
The usual suspects - artist, label, piece and performance all play into the
value and desirability of the piece (as in the record).
If I had to guess, they may be interested in 1/1,000 78's that come their way.
And - condition, condition, condition is paramount.
How one contacts these specialists I'm not sure.
The Casals linked are just a sampling of what would interest them.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" - Michael McClure
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Interesting. I notice the vast majority of those high priced Casals 78s were either Bach cello suites or the Casals Thibaud Cortot trio. The Bach cello suites are nearly always among the most collectible classical music pieces. And beyond that, I'd bet that solo or chamber records featuring famous soloists would be most valuable, other than Caruso or a few other very common ones (Fritz Kreisler, perhaps).I'd also guess that 78s would generally be less valuable for soloists who recorded well into the LP era, just as mono LPs are less valuable for soloists who recorded well into the stereo era. So Heifetz 78s might not be so valuable. Edit: At first I said Elman, but some of his LPs go for big bucks, so the same may be true for his 78s. On the other hand, without even looking on popsike, I'd guess that Eugene Ysaye 78s would be very valuable.
Edits: 07/16/14
yours is a solid summation and smart analysis of my bare bones post.
There is currently a CRAZY market for VERY EARLY Chinese 78's, most of which I imagine did NOT survive the political disturbances
in China over the past several decades and are now to be found in various countries around the globe, likely in very small quantities.
Along with other forms of Chinese art, the robust Chinese economy is allowing collectors of these recordings to pay high prices for what they want.
There are MANY, VERY expensive 78's listed on Popsike (and most fit the genre profile that JM listed), but there are some REAL surprises and most
aren't even listed as 78's, so it's difficult to do a search for them.
The highest priced record on popsike is a 78 NOT listed as such.
http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildatar.php?itemnr=300969625287
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" - Michael McClure
Complete Ysaye violin recordings start at $10.99:
http://www.amazon.com/Eugene-Ysaye-Violinist-Conductor-Recordings/dp/B0000029P5?ie=UTF8&tag=libraryextension-20&camp=211189&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0000029P5
Example from this set (Vieuxtemps Rondino):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv1pWXzQnP0
An excellent one to own, IMO, but not a collector's item.
Maybe so, though according to Popsike, a 12 inch 78 in excellent condition (according to the seller) with Ysaye playing Vieuxtemps sold for $173, and another one with music of Faure went for $140. But it may well be that most Ysaye 78s are less valued. Classical 78s are like classical LPs. People mostly bought the same titles with the biggest names, and those tend to be more common and less prized today, regardless of musical merit.
People who reissues old recording searches very clean copy of 78 by well known cellist and violinist. Thus commands very high price.Si.
Edits: 07/16/14 07/16/14
Especially when it comes to the Bach solo violin sonatas or cello suites. Bach solo violin sonatas by Heifetz on 78 have sold for as much as $246, according to popsike. The Feuermann / Moore Schubert Arpeggione sonata set, $370. (Too bad my LP reissue is worth nothing!) Still, most Heifetz and Feuermann 78s seem to sell for well under $50, suggesting that only a handful of rare ones command high prices, as with most collectibles.
Yes, I know you can very occasionally find someone willing to pay a lot of money for a rare classical 78 set or individual disc. However, the MUSICAL value of the reissues is undiminished (and sometimes priceless). For example, whether you listen to Ysaye's playing on an original 78, youtube, or a CD, you're still going to hear fabulously lyrical playing that traveled down the line to his students (eg., Gingold) and his students' students (e.g., Joshua Bell).
If you want to hear Joseph Joachim play Brahms, you must plan on being rich. On the other hand, you can hear him for free on youtube. That's priceless.
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