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In Reply to: RE: Another deep thinker, I see. posted by Timbo in Oz on March 15, 2012 at 19:08:58
I'll concede your first point & I will admit to not really having much interest in most music earlier than Beethoven. While Period music may hold historical significance it's "voice" which was small to begin with becomes about the sound of the instruments more than the music. In retrospect, I should probably have not made my comments as they do lack a bit of sensitivity .
Follow Ups:
Sigh.
You're real good at self-limiting, at other people's behest, and unthinkingly as well.
The music and the sound and the point of it all are orthogonal, get over it.
HIP is not about making the sound small.
Try the Hyperion disc of Handel's Fireworks.
Note that a post in response is preferred.
Warmest
Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
Well "Timmy", who said anything about making music without sound ? By small voice of (much) of this music I was saying that "for me" I really don't find a lot of "substance" beyond a certain "sound of the period" to the music. With your reference to Chaucer in your salutation , I'm guessing you are very enamored with most things "Early Period" related. I'm not. HIP reminds me of music for history buffs. I love music, this music not so much.If this attitude deems me a "music curmudgeon" then so be it. I find Handel almost interesting at times ,but only in small doses. Have a great day!
If you have a problem with the way any particular period's music sounds, and expect all music to sound the way you've gotten used to, be big enough to admit that.
But don't parade it as thoughtful or informed.
There is no period of recorded human effort that I am not interested in.
The most interesting is here and now, and our future with this planet.
I've been a successful change agent, so I'm used to dealing with 'that's the way it is' thinking.
I accept that lots of people 'think?' that way, but I don't respect it.
Because it manifestly isn't true.
I am bothered by a lot of 20th Century art and music, and I think the artists wanted us to be. Much of it is an honest response to the human story of the 20C which was a brutal denial of the 19C's positivism.
Note that a post in response is preferred.
Warmest
Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
Why do you insist on pursuing how "I" view this music. I am not parading anything. What is "thoughtful" for one person is'nt necessarily for another person . How on earth did you come to the conclusion that I was attempting to do anything other than explain my view. If how I rationalize how "I" feel about something is'nt valid for you, that is perfectly fine by me. I don't understand the compulsion to diminish what I've had to say. I'm really not trying to start a cult movement of any sort. This will be the last I plan to discuss this as I don't think we're on the same page. Give it a rest,mate. It's really counterproductive trying to explain to me the errors of my rationalizations for one very simple reason, they are my rationalizations. I never raised the "I'm right" flag at any point. I'm not nearly as cynical of the 20th century as you seem to be, much of the great music that has been written this century,has been inspired by the state of the human condition & all it's complexities be they of a positive or negative nature. I for one am glad the plague is'nt the concern it once was.
Edits: 03/16/12
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