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The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . .

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jimdgoulding@yahoo.com

Satisfaction Guaranteed- Mark Murphy (Muse). Vocal improv, arrangements, feeling. This muthajumper rules!

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Trane & Johnny Hartman. (nt) - jazztrumpet 15:40:19 11/11/09 (1)
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- RE: Trane & Johnny Hartman. (nt) - soundfan 16:05:26 11/12/09 (0)
  +1
  
  A great album.
  
  Chris
Well, here's a candidate for the honor ... - Mike K 09:48:54 11/04/09 (7)
The great Johnny Hartmann, with the great Hank Jones et al.

Mike
- Johnny Hartmann (Open in New Window)
- Can't bring yourself to acknowledge Coltrane I see - GEO 15:17:55 11/04/09 (5)
  That album pales in comparison to the Album with Coltrane. Even Johnny would admit to that. I have virtually every J Hartman record...even a disco record....
  - Actually I have not heard that particular album - Mike K 09:32:16 11/06/09 (2)
    So I am not in a position to give an opinion on it. It's got nothing to
    do with Coltrane.
    
    But I do see that you still are quite insecure about Coltrane ...
    
    Mike
    - I apologize - GEO 13:10:32 11/06/09 (1)
      You should give it a listen. If I recall correctly, Rudy Van Gelder felt that it was his best recorded work. He was featured in an interview on NPR a several years ago. Also, I don't recall where I read it, but there was a good story that talked about the events leading up to that session which really turned out to be quite special. I bought that album early in my exploration of jazz when I knew very little....in fact, I thought Johnny Hartman was a trumpet player when I bought the record and had I known he was a singer, I would not have purchased it! I listened to that recorder over and over the first day I bought it. Its a brilliant and sincere record. You should own it. I bought I Just Dropped By to Say Hello a year or so later as I was getting all the Johnny Hartman that I could find. Nice in its own way but it does not offer the same level or artisty that Hartman and Colrane offers....just my 2 cents.....sorry for the overreaction
      - Apology accepted. - Mike K 21:27:32 11/06/09 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I apologize posted by GEO on November 06, 2009 at 13:10:32
        
        That one is actually on my list of records to buy, but when in record
        stores I just never think about it. But I will get it eventually.
        
        I haven't been buying much jazz lately; mostly bluegrass and folk. It
        seems to me that many of the best musicians in non-classical music
        today are working in these genres. A lot of my friends feel the same
        way. But then again, we're all "old fogies".
        
        Mike
  - RE: Can't bring yourself to acknowledge Coltrane I see - jimdgoulding@yahoo.com 04:04:27 11/05/09 (1)
    Fellas, please, Johnny Hartman has a great voice. Rich baritone cured in smoke and honey, but, fellas, jazz is about improvisation. Mark Murphy sings like a jazz musician plays. He gets a feeling from the song and tha arrangment of it and joins in. We might not be having this discussion if you boy's had the particular album I'm talkin about. As mentioned, some of the tunes from it are spread out over his album, Songbook. Listen to the outtake of All The Things You Are, what he does with the choruses of Eleanor Rigby, and the ladies songs, ALL of those. He's a feeling singer, perhaps you've heard that expression, and a great improvisor. The things he can do with a word or a sentiment. You just gotta give him some volume to lay it all out!
    
    Edits: 11/05/09
    - RE: Can't bring yourself to acknowledge Coltrane I see - GEO 05:00:34 11/05/09 (0)
      My post was just a reference to Johnny Hartman. His LP with Coltrane is far superior to 'I just dropped by to say hello' which is just a stylized jazz LP so I am not surprised that guy loves it.
- Ya beat me to it..............nt - kavakidd 11:59:26 11/04/09 (0)
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  "Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain
RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . . - Travis 07:54:57 11/04/09 (4)
Jim, you should look into Kurt Elling if you haven't already. He does a Pat Metheny tune (Elling's lyrics) that's pretty killer.

"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
- RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . . - jimdgoulding@yahoo.com 08:04:32 11/04/09 (3)
  Thanks, T. I've seen (and heard) him on the tele once. Quite obviously sounds like MM but didn't seem to use his voice as musically or instrumentally at its best as the MM that I've heard, but that's been my only exposure. I'll look for the one with that tune. You gonna check out Vienna Teng in your old neighborhood? I'm calling for tickets today.
  
  Edits: 11/04/09 11/04/09 11/04/09
  - RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . . - Travis 09:18:41 11/04/09 (2)
    Nevah hoid of her. Not much of a singer/songwriter fan. (Hope my singer/songwriter daughter doesn't read this.)
    
    Nope, but Friday I'll be digging Kenny Garrett at Verizon in Big H.
    
    "If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
    - RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . . - jimdgoulding@yahoo.com 10:32:52 11/04/09 (1)
      Pharoah Sanders touring with him? He's been on two of Kenny's albums of late. Check out Shades of MD- Live at the Iridium.
      - RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . . - Travis 11:33:18 11/04/09 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . . posted by jimdgoulding@yahoo.com on November 04, 2009 at 10:32:52
        
        Got that one although Pharoah, IMHO, does not add a whole lot.
        
        Just so there are no sing alongs.
        
        "If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
you can actually understand his lyrics - hifitommy 17:28:39 11/03/09 (4)
i got complaints from my daughter daily for playing jazz all the time but she would go around singing 'stolen moments'.

my first purchase were the kerouac discs and i love them. muse records also had a way of making instruments sound right which is a nice plus for us audio guys.

in a tv video he showed himself to be tragically conscious of his balding pate and wore a really garish rug BUT his performance of jazz was exemplary on that video.

in the past few years i have seen him a couple of times live that were mostly disappointing with a few choice highlights. i cant say i would go see him live again but his records continue to be worthwhile. thankfully you CAN fix it in the mix.

...regards...tr
- RE: you can actually understand his lyrics - jazz1 21:25:48 11/03/09 (3)
  I also went to see him live show and like you it was most disapointing and his wig is just a joke, maybe he is past his prime?? his earlier recordings are my favorites.
  - istill buy his albums (CDs) - hifitommy 06:26:39 11/04/09 (2)
    they are STILL albums. theres a new one out that i still need and a couple of others that i havent found at the right price yet but i have most of what i need.
    
    kurt elling is his protege and has carried on the style and refined it to a razor edge. ive seen him live here in LA a few times now with great results. my daughter saw him in rotterdam but he scatted most of the program and it didnt please her as much as when we have seen him at catalinas in hollywood.
    
    the best album to start with kurt is "the messenger" where he makes the dexter gordon tune 'tanya jean' his own.
    
    ...regards...tr
    - RE: istill buy his albums (CDs) - jazz1 07:30:37 11/04/09 (1)
      I've seen Kurt a few times and he is great "Live" I have all his cd's
      and enjoy most of it. My wife adores him she think that he is really sexy!! This is the only jazz musician she really enjoy.
      The big plus of Kurt over Mark is the band, his connection with them is really telephatic.
      - check mark murphy's personnel lists - hifitommy 21:31:33 11/06/09 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: istill buy his albums (CDs) posted by jazz1 on November 04, 2009 at 07:30:37
        
        on his albums. some of the very best are there. that always amazed me. kurt's band otoh is always with him and the sound is more consistent.
        
        both are prominent in my collection.
        
        ...regards...tr
Bingo Jimbo! - That's what I was going to say! - woober goober 10:58:36 11/03/09 (0)
Mark Murphy rules!
My favs of his are:
That's How I Love the Blues
September Ballads
Once To Every Heart
Love Is What Stays
Ummmhhh!!!!! ???? nt - jazz1 21:36:34 11/02/09 (8)
nt
- RE: Ummmhhh!!!!! ???? nt - jimdgoulding@yahoo.com 09:10:55 11/03/09 (2)
  jazz1- You might want to "ponder" on over to Amazon or someplace and order the Mark Murphy Songbook. This is a collection of tunes from MM's Muse days to include some tracks from Satisfaction Guaranteed (Muse) which is no longer available. Listen LOUD, my friend. He inhabits his songs. He'll inhabit you with them, too, LOUD. Mess you up, dood.
  - RE: Ummmhhh!!!!! ???? nt - jazz1 09:44:37 11/03/09 (1)
    Been listening to Mark Murphy for the last 20 years I do enjoy his music but I find his mannerism a little tiring and boring.
    I much prefer him on slow ballads where he does not try to be too hip!
    - RE: Ummmhhh!!!!! ???? nt - jimdgoulding@yahoo.com 10:31:33 11/03/09 (0)
      Then you must like Don't Go To Strangers/Don't Misunderstand from this, right? I used to think like that. . that's he's TOO hip, but I've come to think he is one of the best note benders ever. Truth be told, I was foolin around with my VTA over the weekend and this was handy. I was listening very loud so no nuance was escaping me. He has Sinatra and Joe Williams in there but it's his phrasing. I admire him for singing anything he feels passionate about like those two which are really women's songs to include Welcome Home. And the arrangements are superb on this. Think you oughta do what I did, old sport, listen again and loud. Worked for me. Nothin to lose. Cheers.
      
      Edits: 11/03/09
- It's true! The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . . - musetap 22:29:17 11/02/09 (4)
  That day.
  
  “ Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination. ” -Michael McClure
  - RE: It's true! The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . . - jimdgoulding@yahoo.com 09:13:36 11/03/09 (3)
    THOUSANDS of days. And nights.
    - RE: It's true! The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . . - musetap 11:46:32 11/03/09 (2)
      O.K...
      “ Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination. ” -Michael McClure
      - Hmmmm-just discovered I have that one -- on a mint, mono - kavakidd 13:41:00 11/03/09 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: It's true! The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . . posted by musetap on November 03, 2009 at 11:46:32
        
        white label promo copy. Guess I've no excuse but to give him a listen
        
        "Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain
        
        RE: Hmmmm-just discovered I have that one -- on a mint, mono - jimdgoulding@yahoo.com 19:13:41 11/11/09 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Hmmmm-just discovered I have that one -- on a mint, mono posted by kavakidd on November 03, 2009 at 13:41:00
        
        Ahhh . . and it's his use of half notes. So killer! Elling got all of that from Murphy. Cat oughta be paying him royalties. Sliding scales, too.
        
        Edits: 11/11/09

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