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In Reply to: RE: "Schroeder favorite" posted by Satie on February 11, 2017 at 18:47:05
"I just wish SoundLabs could build the larger speaker to this price point so that it fit more budgets and more folks could pick up speakers from the used market. "
Uhhh? How does that make sense? The larger ones are more expensive because they are more expensive to make. It would be like wishing Ferrari could build a car to Honda price points so more people could afford a Ferrari.
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One can wish. But your point is real. Just how can you get the cost down so that the full height 7 ft speaker (bigger ones don't fit some rooms with acoustic drop ceilings, like my own).
> Uhhh? How does that make sense? The larger ones are more expensive because they are more expensive to make. It would be like wishing Ferrari could build a car to Honda price points so more people could afford a Ferrari
Interesting your comparison with cars. These speakers are offered at a comparable price to many cars, though not usually Ferrari-priced ones maybe. How can this possibly be justified? Imagine the number of parts that have to be designed and made, then assembled, painted, after-sales costs, etc in the manufacture of a car - then compare with a pair of speakers, however exotic. Granted, most car makers have the volume advantage and can use robots to help with assembly, but it's patently obvious that high-end manufacturers are taking advantage of our demands for the very best sound possible.
I accept that many manufacturers go bust, but that's not because their material or labour costs per item are crippling. It's surely because they don't sell as many as they planned - there are too few customers willing to pay car-prices for a pair of speakers.
I recently watched a "How it's Made" programme that featured Martin Logan speakers. They're relatively low cost thing to manufacture in material terms. As with cars, accuracy and tolerances are important, but when you start to think about it, there's not much to speaker building when compared with cars!
Peter
The commentary on this clip is drearily dull compared with the guy who voices over for the UK version!
Economics of scale, etc., between the auto industry and the speciality audio industry is beside the point.
The larger Sound Labs are more expensive than the smaller Sound Labs because the larger ones are more expensive to make. Its that simple.
How and why we get to that pricing is another discussion.
> How and why we get to that pricing is another discussion.
Just to remind you, the question was actually "Quad vs Martin Logan" and nothing to do with Sound Labs or any other make!
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