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In Reply to: RE: Martin Logan Summit X in a big semi-circular room posted by Satie on January 29, 2017 at 14:15:12
Yes I think you're right - I should be able to get more from my AGs and I'm already making encouraging progress.
On Friday I'm visiting a couple of dealers to listen to some possible alternatives:
Used Martin Logan Summit (X version I think)
Another used ML Summit that's definitely the non-X version
New Magico S3 (original version)
Used Bowens & Wilkins 802D (last version before the current D3)
The 802D is probably the best value as it's offered at under £4000 and is possibly the most appropriate for my room of 975 sq ft. I've only heard an 803 many years ago in a small demo room, but it was mighty impressive.
I'll be wary about changing, but it's worth a day out to listen to these. The 802Ds in particular are ones that I could reckon on re-selling without much loss if I eventually found I preferred the Unos!
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Since you are coming from horns and appreciate maggies and ESLs I think you should audition the locally made Living Voice Avatar OBX R2 or RW models. A friend who is an avid maggie user was very impressed with them.
Several years ago when visiting my dealer (audio equipment, not drugs), I asked to audition their best (most costly B & W). I wasn't impressed and said I felt their vertical soundstage too small, beamed too low and narrow. I recall him replying that's what expected coming from a Maggie owner.
I might have felt otherwise if my ears were at the level of my knees (regardless of any technological advances they might have employed).
Good point. It was also my impression from the 800 line and the Wilson WATT/Puppy that the images are projected incorrectly. The technician at the dealer said that they suggest to buyers who find it a problem to tilt the speaker to get the tweeter into closer time alignment to the mids which helps image depth and vertical dimension, but creates holes in the crossover region. But you don't get the broad tall full sized soundstage or imaging that a large planar produces.
I should point out that there is a FB MUG member who has an 802D3 and a set of 3.7i with a pair of DWM in the same room where the 802D3 is used for HT mains to match with the rest of the surround system and the maggies are used for music. He thinks the B&W don't come close to realistic portrayal. Particularly of space.
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