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In Reply to: RE: Magnepan 3.5 low end dropofft and some high end harmonics/dropoff posted by Scot on November 24, 2015 at 05:23:07
It might help to post the fs from REW. The slight rolloff of the treble is normal and, according to Wendell Dillar at Magnepan, is actually desirable. He told me that a 1 db per octave drop above 500 hz is actually what they try to achieve.
I suspect some of the other peaks are actually room related. Also very important - check the polarity of the connections. If the bass panels are in opposite polarity, you could get significant cancellation as well as poor imaging. You may want to pull the fuses on the mid and treble and just do a fs on the bass and also do scans on the individual speakers.
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My right speaker is similar, but I must have accidentally deleted the run with it. The only real difference is a 50hz hole on the right side, but that is due to the room.
That is very low bass output, I would even guess there is at least one loop on each bass panel with a disconnect.
Check out the impedance on the bass panel terminals - if you have something other than 4 ohms or so then you likely have a problem. If it measures 8 ohms then you likely have the disconnect and you should look for it in the wires or the solder joints. You can also play the amp connected directly to the bass panel and see if you get good output to make sure there is nothing wrong with the low pass filter in the XO. .
Removed the crossovers to check the resistance, 4.1 ohm in both. So that seems to be within the margin of error for working properly.
My system has been "in use" by my daughter for two days now, so I haven't been able to re-test using just the bass hookups, bypassing the crossovers. Soon!
One strange thing, I looked in the crossover boxes, one side had 3 richey caps on the bass side, two 100s and one 75mf. The other speaker had four, 1 75, 2 50s and a 100mf. Guess they ran out of 100s that day :)
If they were scraping the bottom on their stock of caps they may have used ones that were suspect. If the bass improves dramatically on a switch to direct connection to the bass panels without the XO then you might want to go to active biamping to bypass the XO..
Try plugging your room dimensions into an online mode calculator. You may just have an unfortunate combination of room modes and placement/listening position. 10 dB room-dependent swings in bass aren't at all unusual. Dip a bit above 100 Hz could be modal or cancellation from the front wall reflection. Solutions would include new placement, bass trapping, and supplementation with a sub or DWM's.
No sense in measuring the woofers from 1 meter, they'll show a lot more bass in the near field. Dipole bass has to be measured further away.
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