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I have had my Acoustat Spectra 22s for over a year now, and it is been two months since I had the interfaces refurbished. These are true hobbyist speakers that provide many opportunities to improve the sound they produce.
While some may argue the point, Acoustat panels are very tough and long lasting. I can't speak to others, but my panels appear to be in great shape with very few wrinkles. Even with high volume Reggae, I have not heard any "panel slap" or other noises indicating that the Mylar has become loose or lost tension. Yes I do get some frame vibration (well get to that) but no panel noise. So I have never given them the hair dryer or heat gun "heat treatment". Some swear by this and do it regularly, other advice that it is the quickest way to ruin your panels. The truth is probably somewhere in between. I bring this up as it is a recognized Acoustat tweak and if you are getting slapping sounds from the panels this and compressed air/vacuuming of the panels can help(if done correctly). Always unplug and de energize your speakers for at least a day before doing any of the above.
If the panels are robust, the interfaces are much less so. Acoustat interfaces are not famous for the quality of the parts (although the transformers in the later versions and especially the Spectra models appear to be of high quality). Nearly every Cap, Diode, Resistor, and wire can be improved upon by modern parts. The older parts go out of spec over time, bias drifts, and the speakers loose a lot of their sound quality. The binding posts are awful. If you have original interfaces, I highly recommend you consider refurbishment. There are some sources that specialize in this service, but pretty much any quality tech with experience with high voltage circuitry should be able to handle it. While your at it, have him make sure the bias voltage is up to snuff, this is critical for ESL operation. Just replacing the parts should bring you up to Acoustat's operating bias voltage of around 4.5KV, most older interfaces are running lower. I had my bias voltage juiced up to just under 6KV, no problems the speakers seem easier to drive (with my tube amp) and more alive and dynamic. Make sure the bias is equal for each speaker or you will have an annoying volume difference between speakers (also a common problem with old Acoustats)
OK now to the tweaks! I must give full credit to tyu who has posted here before and helped me alot and has 30 years experience with Acoustats for many of these tweaks.
1)Take down the potato sack socks.
The fabric is way to thick and just muffles the high end. They sound way better without the fabric. They look crappy no doubt (a couple of giant vertical ice cube trays) but some new stretched Spandex socks can cure that.
2)Loosen the bolts.
Each Acoustat panel has 8 bolts holding the panel to the frame. The conventional wisdom is to keep these tight. This is wrong, as the tighter the panels are coupled to the frames, the more the frames vibrate and sing along. The best sound is with the bolts loose, and some ever removed.
3)Experiment with tilt.
Not sure about other models, but my 22s allow the user to tilt the speakers backward. If strait up panels are 90 degrees, the tilt allows for the panels to go back to about 60 degrees. Experimentation is the key, too much back tilt and you loose too much highs, but with a tilt to between 70 and 80 degrees you will get more focused sound, a lower, more realistic image with a larger sweet spot and less beamy, more realistic highs.
4)Dampen the frames.
If you don't want to go to the work of building new frames, applying some dampening to the frames can help to keep them from singing along with the panels. I used Soundcoat sheets available from Partsconnexion. Just cut them into the appropriate sized strips and stick them on the (back) of the frames. A small but noticeable improvement.
5)Decouple the bases from the floor.
I use Vibropods #5, two in the back and one centered in front. Really helped clean up the bass on loud passages. Have not tried other types like cones or spikes.
Those are the ones I have so far. It also goes (almost) without saying that speaker positioning, toe in and room treatment play big parts in getting the most out of these speakers. But when everything is right, there is something magical about a big Electrostatic that you just don't get from other speakers.
Hope this helps owners get the most out of their Acoustats. Some of these tweaks may be useable with other types of speakers as well.
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Heard Spectra 22s last weekend at a friends and they sound just like I remembered from my 2200s...ie. GOOODDD! Interestingly, the one real difference between the two models is the fabric of the "sock". The Spectra 2200 sock was MUCH thinner than the socks on his 22s and I assume your 22s. It is the same as what I had on the my 1+1s and I removed that as it was just too thick.
I also tweaked my power supplies to get the recommended 4.5KV (mine were low when I bought them).
Hi morricab.
Yes removing/replacing the socks on the older Acoustats is mandatory IMO otherwise the top end is muted. You definitely don't want to mute the top end on Acoustats.
My experiments on the felt pads on the back of the panels also show how important these are to the final sound. Funny, I have never heard anyone comment on this other than tyu. You need something to control the panel resonance but it does not need to be high end absorbing thick felt. These contribute to the "dark" sound some describe Acoustats as having (along with the thick socks).Currently have the large original piece of felt back in with the smaller pieces above and below replaced by masking tape. This seems to give the best balance between the bass and high frequencies. Would like to experiment with some thinner felt in these spots also.
Completely agree that having the bias supply at least 4.5KV and equal between speakers is critical. Higher is better IMO currently running just under 6KV with no problems.
These speakers seem to love power would like to try 250 watts a side (wish they could be tube watts but that sounds pricey!) as opposed to my current 90 watts per side tube amp.
Never had better sound or more fun in my listening room, playing with these 27 year old speakers. Thinking about doing the hair dryer retentioning alla E-Stat.
Long live Acoustat!
I and my friend both got the best sound by using a KR Audio VA350i 30 watt SET amp...power isn't what it needs...quality is.
Mendel,
It's been about five years and I have no idea if they still stock such things. But when I went looking for felt to replace some that had been lost, I found that McMaster-Carr sells felt strips in near identical thickness and dimension as the original stuff Acoustat used. As I recall, they also had felt in other thicknesses too.
Mike
Thanks for the info Mike!
I bought my Acoustat 2+2 new, they have the medalions, for many years I hated them, took big amps to get any kind of output from them, sound was dead, no life in them at all, no matter what amps I used on them, they spent 3/4's of thier life penned up in storage while I listened to my Infinitys and Apogee's. The average room size I placed them in was approx 15'w by 19'l and smaller.
I moved and bought a big school, huge rooms, 25x33' 10'3" cielings, I set the 2+2's up in one of them, I found out quickly what the problem was, THOSE speakers NEED room to BREATHE!!!!, takes 1/4 the power to achieve same volume of a small room, the whole freq range comes to life without beaming and smothered to death! crystal clear vocals, beautifull soundstage. You have't heard an Acoustat till it's set free and allowed to breathe. They will perform right up there with the best, just don't choke them to death. :) I have them now in a 33'by 80' room , and it's a no holds barred in performance. My Apogee's can't even compete with them.
Interesting , I have my Spectra's in a smallish 12 X16 man cave with 7 1/2 foot ceiling In a nearfield setup. Great sounding setup. Of course the 2+2 are a different animal with 4 panels per side and a true floor to ceiling line array. I can see them needing much more breathing room. Not surprised that you like them now, Acoustats definitely take a lot of effort to optimize but when you do they can provide superb preformance.
That's mighty high praise for them. The gentleman I bought my Monitor IVs from had his Acoustats set up in a room that was 30' X 45' (or there about). He was driving ten to twelve panels per side with two servos per side. It was very, very impressive. I have my IVs in a room that's 15x19x10. They sound awful damned good in near-field too. Wish I could hear your setup.
One of my best sounding systems was using Spectra 2200s from 100Hz and up and using Spectra 4400s as gigantic subwoofers. I used an Accuphase F25 active xover and two KR Audio VA350i SET amps to drive them both. The power of big Acoustats in the bass cannot be beat in my experience.
Nice write-up. Curious, as I have never seen or heard the Acoustats. You mention that the mounting screws should be loosened up which is pretty much the opposite of what we do with the Maggies and also flies in the face of PG theories about why wood frames are better than MDF. From what I read the Acoustats also use primary MDF with just some wood ando plywood parts. Do you think making totally hardwood frames would be beneficial?
Hi neolith.
Hardwood frames would probably improve things, but many people who build new frames go one better and use steel. The stock Acoustat frames are pretty flimsy.
The standard advice with Acoustats and other panel speakers is to keep the bolts tight. Have you ever tried to loosen the bolts on your Maggies? Only takes a few seconds and a few seconds more to tighten if you don't like it. Two ways to go with frames for panel speakers-- either make them as rigid as possible alla Peter Gun, or decouple the panels as much as possible from the frames.
The ultimate would be panels in free space (perhaps suspended from the ceiling or attached to the floor). Then you would get no frame sound at all. A little impractical for most set ups though.
Ok here is one more great Acoustat tweak that has been around for a long time that I finally got around to trying.
One the back of each panel are three pieces of felt. These can be removed and replaced with paper masking tape. The felt absorbs a lot of high frequencies, with the tape in place you get more highs off the panel. More sparkle, more "air" around instruments. The rest of the frequencies seem unchanged. I can hear no downside, my Acoustats can use the extra top end. Easily reversible, just peal off the tape and glue the felt back on. Once you try it I doubt you will go back to the felt. The attached picture shows the back of the panels with the tape in place and the Soundcoat dampening on the frames.
Long live Acoustat!
The assembly techniques sure changed from how my Monitor IVs were put together to the way your Spectras are done. This picture is of the back of them. Panels bolted from back to front, and the recesses in the frame that the panels fit into are all lined with a felt product to eliminate any panel to frame buzzing.
...are all lined with a felt product to eliminate any panel to frame buzzing.
the felt is there to control the primary diaphragm resonance.
Stat,
Are you referring to the heavy felt strips on the back of the panels, or the thin felt on the frame members? I knew the thick strips on back were there to deal with diaphragm resonances, but just assumed the thin felt on the frame was there to keep the plastic from vibrating against the wood.
Mike
Are you referring to the heavy felt strips on the back of the panels, or the thin felt on the frame members?
The former as pictured earlier. I misread your post and agree with your assertion. Mea culpa.
I guess I was really responding to Mendel's "tweak" to effectively disable a necessary design function. I believe that is not a good idea.
Some people just like a whompy high Q kind of bass. A step in the wrong direction IMO but.....
Tweakers do the same thing with the original Quad removing all the damping material on the rear screen.
Hi guys!
Yes the purpose of these posts are to get people talking about Acoustat's again. These speakers are approaching 30 years old and can often be picked up for a song. My Spectra 22 cost me $1000 Canadian or about $700 U.S. These speakers are the perfect vehicles for experimentation and are capable of excellent performance IMHO.
Yes, the felt on the back is there to control panel resonances. Substituting tape for the felt is not defeating this built in design, just substituting materials. The tape preforms a similar function to the felt. I am not recommending removing the felt and running the speakers bare.
That said, I am definitely now hearing a change in the upper bass that I am not sure if I like it. I DO like the increase in high frequencies. I intend to do more listening and further experiment with the felt, possibly reapplying one of the 3 pieces of felt in an attempt to "tune" the panels for the best sound for me. I might even try other materials. All in good fun, no animals were harmed in these experiments. Any and all the "tweaks" I have described can easily be reversed and the speakers reverted to stock form.
Kent, I know you are not a fan of these speakers but did you ever try any of the Spectra versions? I have spent quite a bit of time listening to the new Quads and of course my Spectras and I can see how someone might prefer one or the other, but I do think they are competitive. Each has its strengths and weaknesses.
All the best!
Hey, no big. I'm just happy people are talking about Acoustats for a change.
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