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In Reply to: RE: No conclusion jumping was attempted but I may be guilty of trying to raise the bar a bit. posted by Norman M on June 13, 2015 at 08:24:43
Being happy with your Bryston's sonically and resale wise with warrantee...
The used Market on the Magtech's is $4000-$3500... I have not seen anything below $3500...Mine was $3700 shipped...When they do come up on Agon, they do not last more than a couple of days in that price range...The ones that are priced over $4000 seem to hang around more...
For my gear, warrantee has never really been a priority for purchase or resale...I am an eternal optimist thou...
Just the lifetime warrantee alone gives me confidence in the product, whether it is transferable or not...he is willing to stand behind his designs...
Similar to the Brystons, the Magtech is a good match with any Maggies...but hey, that is why they make Fords and Chevys...we all have our own priorities to what we want out of a product...
Thanks
Mark
Follow Ups:
I have and used three Brystons (two 7B STs and a 4B SST, with their 20 year transferable warranties)long before there was a Magtech and most probably before it was a thought on "Roger's" mind, so it didn't enter the competition. It wasn't a matter of my sitting down and racking my brain, should I buy Bryston or Magtech?
I'm not criticizing anyone's choice of amplification. By all accounts Bryston amps are conservatively designed, well built and dependable. We both agree that long warranties are a plus. That said, I'm curious as to why you've made a much bigger deal about Bryston's 20 year semi-transferable warranty than discussing amplifier sound quality, Am I missing something here?
While Bryston amps are highly lauded & have a solid reputation among advocates, there are also numerous on-line reviews critical of Bryston's sound signature. I know this to be the case because I researched both amplifier manufacturers and the testimonial evidence of owners prior to settling on Sanders.
Just to be clear on this point again, I haven't heard any of the current line of Bryston amplification to make a personal assessment, so I have no first hand opinion save for the anecdotal evidence. Norman, I am very impressed by your system and the modifications you've made to achieve high end sound reproduction, and nothing I've said here should be interpreted as taking anything away from that. My 2 cents (the tax applied for beating a dead horse).
Cheers,
AuPh
I believe Bryston's 20 year warranty is totally (not "semi") transferable. It's no big deal, and only offers some peace of mind, as in having insurance for repair costs. I've only listened to one other amplifier make on my Tympanis, Adcom's first GFA 555, two of which I used bridged one per side as if they were mono blocks.
(1) I can't discuss sound quality because I haven't listened to other amps, and it has been so long ago that listened to my Adcoms, I couldn't even compare them to the Brystons today, and (2) AND most importantly I'd really have to be dumb to think that at my age my hearing could possibly be good enough to offer meaningful opinions. I've long been of the opinion that once one becomes Medicare Eligible, one must surrender surrender their audiophile union card, (and in my case, that's been more than a decade ago)!
To my way of thinking, age isn't a factor to having meaningful audio insights. Besides, it's doubtful that any of us has perfect hearing, I know I don't.
What I meant by semi-transferable is the fact that Bryston requires proof of dealer authorized purchase with transferred ownership these days. So, if someone buys a used Bryston amp and the previous owner failed to provide the original receipt, Bryston may opt to charge for repair still under warranty.
FTR, I think your opinions have been better articulated than my own.
Cheers,
AuPh
AuPh, thank you for your all too generous compliments. While I can certainly hear and appreciate the differences in the 'big picture' (as when my Tympani IV-A vs the 3.6 is playing, heh... heh...,), when it comes to subtle differences heard listening to well designed amplifiers of different manufacture, equally capable of driving any given speaker to comparable volume levels, I respectfully yield to listeners which are half my age!
(Bryston is fully aware if a used amplifier was originally purchased from an authorized dealer by its serial number.)
Don't underestimate your hearing. While the cilia in your ear which do the freq. detection work ("FFT") do age rather ungracefully, the rest of the system is dedicated to transient detection and localization, and overall SPL detection and change and remains mighty sensitive into old age.
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