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Pairing Maggie 1.6 with subwoofer

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I have no extra cash right now and have access to a free Definitve Technology Pro Sub 100. Would this work well enough until I can afford an optimum match?

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RE: Pairing Maggie 1.6 with subwoofer - grooviefan 00:32:30 05/29/15 (0)
i picked up a dayton wright sub for my maggies. it has 3 8' woofers in the enclosure. seems to work just sweet with my 1.6's.
Don't be Afraid... - BigguyinATL 10:01:13 04/23/15 (0)
To try using the Highpass of the Sub on the 1.6's. That is to not run the 1.6's full range, If using a receiver you can set the speaker size to "Small". Also try a side wall placement for the sub. I found it easier to blend the sources if the subwoofer is in the dipole "null" position of the Maggies.
"The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat" - Confucius
RE: Pairing Maggie 1.6 with subwoofer - JBen 22:16:12 04/22/15 (0)
Try it. It may show you things applicable to your final approach to bass later.

Now, if you are like many folks of the classical music/acoustic leanings, I suspect that you may have a hard time fully liking it. Then again, if you are a hard rock nut you may like it even less, LOL!

The former folks would rather lose some bass than lose some rich instrumental textures. This type of subwoofer has a hard time doing this when compared to the low-end textural resolution of your Maggies -- even in their weak rapid drop-off curve. You may minimize this shortcoming by placing the sub at the plane of the Maggies, ideally in the middle. (yup, forget wall bass reinforcement)

Now, if it is ROCK that you like, you will NEED that wall reinforcement. Even a weak 100 watts can sound impressively strong if you find the right wall/corner. Textures and clarity will go AWOL but who cares in this league.

I myself am in the middle of finally adding the lowest octave to my Maggies. So, it is really too early for me to properly share. In a month or so I may be able to get rid of my wife for 3 weeks and finish this project thing. If some cold beer or better yet, 3 expressos, would be made available, I could then be persuaded to drive over from Broward with the prototype woofers and gear. Drop me a note if this makes sense.
agree; it's free, no sense wasting time on us, hook it up- nt - Green Lantern 11:16:06 04/22/15 (0)
It's free - grantv 10:56:15 04/22/15 (5)
Get it, hook it up, let us know.
Honestly, if you set it up right (the DefTech users manual SHOULD be a good start) you'll probably be happy. Set the filter at around 35Hz to start, run your mains full range (my preference), sub off to one side against wall same distance or closer to seat as the mains, play around from there. All my preferences; their sub, your room, etc. may differ.
- RE: It's free - vinylfind 15:31:00 04/22/15 (0)
  Thank you for your detailed reply. I'll give it a try as you suggested. Will report back.
- RE: It's free - pictureguy 11:53:43 04/22/15 (1)
  When I ran my mains full range, (ALSO 1.6s) the bass was muddy within the limits of where I could actually place the sub. That was with a sub crossover at various places ALL <50hz. I never even bothered to try higher.
  The cure? When I got a preamp with bass management, THAT was the magic bullet. I run the full range siganl to the sub and CONTINUE to let its crossover 'do its thing'. OTOH, I use the Low-Cut feature of my Parasound P5 for reducing bass to the main speakers. And even though THAT crossover is 'only' 12db/ octave, setting the knob to between 50 and 60hz made an AMAZING difference and the bass is now very distinct with great tonality. When listening to Standup bass on a jazz recording, NOW I can easily follow even the most complex bass line. The overtones all come from the main speakers so there is a big feeling of SPACE and L/R imaging is improved.
  
  Don't let people stampede you into getting Stereo Subs. For what you need, a single reasonble sub will work fine.
  Too much is never enough
  - RE: It's free - vinylfind 15:33:38 04/22/15 (0)
    Very interesting, thanks for your reply.
- RE: It's free - DrChaos 11:08:32 04/22/15 (1)
  A sub placement & setup I found to be good with maggies:
  
  As above (full range MG, xo set fairly low), phase set to zero, put it on the same plane as the tweeter, near one or the other of the speakers, with cone facing *across* to other speaker to the side (my preference) or outward, also across, towards the left or right wall.
  
  Suggested by Mapleshade catalog.
  - RE: It's free - Swamis Cat 12:25:19 05/29/15 (0)
    Thanks for sharing this idea, DrChaos. I need to try my sub firing across.
    
    I have an older Paradigm sub and a really old Velodyne. Both are simply horrid with Maggie's. They ruin everything. The paradigm does fine duties in my AV room with movies and my Golden Ear box speakers.
    
    A year or so ago I heard Rythmik subs can work well with panels and bought a sealed sub from them. It is fantastic if crossed over low and phase is set properly. I rarely turn this off in my music only room. Better go and try firing it across the room....

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