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Has anyone ever had Mye stands built for their Acoustats? I know some make a new reinforced frame for their panels, but anyone try Mye? My Spectra 22 look almost the same size as 3.6's. The existing frame is pretty wobbly. When I play bass heavy music I can feel the frame vibrating. I think Mye stands would have a very beneficial affect.
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Not sure they'd really benefit all that much from more rigid framing. It's not like you have some huge moving mass working against itself and rocking back and forth. I spoke to Mike Savuto once about more rigidly fixing them. He told me that he'd essentially done that with his Monitor 8's that he put together by fixing the top of them to the ceiling and spiking the bottoms. He told me that he felt like they did not sound as good that way. Would sure want to do some kind of proof of concept before making that kind of investment in custom stands.
Not sure they'd really benefit all that much from more rigid framing.
I find the contrary to the case with my Sound Lab U-1s which employ a rigid steel frame for the cores.
It's not like you have some huge moving mass working against itself and rocking back and forth.
At low frequencies, you most certainly are trying to move large volumes of air. Mass counts.
So, not to argue, but I'd say the jury is still out on the rigidity of the frames question. I mean does SL use steel because it might somehow be cheaper than wood joinery, and have you ever heard the SLs with wooden frames? You may well be right - I don't know. I will concede on your other point. I hadn't really considered it from that point of view. I was coming more from the pistonic action of voice coils. Although the air being moved is spread out over quite a large area compared to traditional speakers. Would be fun to experiment and find out. Unfortunately, that ain't me. I've got a near-mint pair of Monitor 4's and am not about to mess with that.
I mean does SL use steel because it might somehow be cheaper than wood joinery,It is substantially more expensive. The $45k U-1s use the same cores as the $31k A-1s . I'm not entirely sure, but the U-1s may also incorporate the several thousand dollar "hot rod" enhancement to the backplates, so the difference may not be quite as much as it seems.
and have you ever heard the SLs with wooden frames?
Yes.
edit: provided links
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One thing I have realized dealing with Grant, he is pretty much game for anything...IMHO he would tackle custom orders, delivering good value and keeping the price down...
I know he has done many non-Maggie flat panel brands...I thought they were listed somewhere on his website, but I could not find them on a quick search...
Good luck...
thanks
Mark
I listen on suspended hardwood floors. I've found that mine sound best when decoupled. I use Symposium roller balls on mine per the attached picture. I've since gone with the HDSE 7075 aluminum Rollerblock Juniors. To my ear decoupling the speakers from the floor makes the bass so much more natural and less boomy. Much more extended, too.My take is that the mylar is so many orders of magnitude lighter than the frames that you don't need to worry too much about counter-movement of the frame. What you are feeling in the frame is likely resonance, and I doubt the MYE stands will stop that. IMO the vibration/resonance isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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What will have an effect is vibes being transmitted from the mylar TO the frame, not getting absorbed and BOUNCING back. (reflected, might be the 'better' term) This will muddy things up, for sure.
I personally champion high rigidity BY DESIGN coupled with low mass. Use of natural composites, like WOOD, for example, help spread the spectrum of vibes out and diminish nodes.
I would personally LOVE to experiment with 3/4" PLYBOO, which is Bamboo Plywood. I have a bunch of samples, all about 4"x4"x3/4" and the 'neopolitan' weighs about 25% MORE than any of the other samples which all hover around 100grams. = <4oz.
That stuff has a (naturally) high silicon content and tends to EAT even the hardest tooling. Keep your stuff sharp for best and safest results.
Too much is never enough
I, too have had good results with light but rigid. As I stated below, I do plan to try something other than the Granite for comparison. I have the stuff to build a Symposium-esque shelf out of Aluminum, Gatorfoam, MDF, and Masonite. Just need to find time to glue it all up!
Question? Is that felt under the granite? if so what is the density I need to pick some up
Thanx
Bill
Man, I do not remember the density of the felt. It is very stiff, though. It's the same stuff Mike Elliott used for the Counterpoint circuit board damping at AltaVista Audio. IIRC it was up in the 20 range. It does help "unboom" the bass on my suspended hardwood floor. Next up is a DIY Symposium type shelf to replace the granite. Really just as a comparison... I actually quite like the granite.
Hey, Kevin. I didn't recognize yer handle at first. We need an excuse to visit Mike in OKC again one of these days. Hope you've been well. How's your collection of station wagons these days? Still got them?Best,
Mike
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Hi Mike! Yes, an OKC trip would be awesome! The wagons are great. The fleet is 5 strong at the moment but I need to put one up on the auction block. The wife is getting impatient...
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