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In Reply to: RE: Maggie 3.6 and Pioneer SW8 MK2 Subwoofers posted by onemug on December 07, 2014 at 18:33:51
My old neighbor (Frank) from Burnsville, Mn. turned me on to them. Frank V., has a thread on Audio Circle about the sats and subs. Andrew Jones has a lot of post on the 44 page thread with 119,000+ hits. These people actually have experience with the subs and sats outside of google. It's a good read.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=113182.0
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On paper at least, it is not a good match for the 3.x maggies. They roll off just a tad below where the 3.x roll off so they can't extend the bottom end much, though I am sure they can give you better dynamics in the second octave the the 3.x could.
an MMG is not a 3.x maggie.
Does Jones have a bigger subwoofer design?
Satie, you must have read my mind, I am not looking for subs that are capable of playing the lowest notes of an organ but something that can effortlessly reproduce, for example, the power of a contra bass (40Hz-200Hz) which the 3.6 is too polite for my liking in my room (25' L x 20'' W x 10' H). These Pioneer subs look like the real McCoy. Here's an excerpt from Terry London from Hometheater Review, comparing them vs. the REL T-7, a $1,000 sub,
"About two years ago, I reviewed the excellent REL Acoustics T-7 subwoofer, retailing for $1,000 a unit, and bought the review pair for my smaller system. While having a pair of subwoofers does lower bass extension and improve slam, the major advantage, when properly set up, is that dual subwoofers increase the soundstage in all directions. You also get much stronger image density and more three-dimensional aspects to the individual players. I set up the pair of Pioneer SW-8MK2 subwoofers in the same location as the T-7s, located on the outside corners of the Lawrence Audio Mandolins with the subwoofers two and a half feet off of the front wall. I kept the volume, crossover, and phase consistent between the two pairs of subwoofers. To my disbelief, the $320 SW-8MK2 pair performed at the same sonic level as the highly regarded pair of T-7 subwoofers. The SW-8MK2 produced all the sonic spatial qualities and offered as much bass extension and slam as the T-7 subwoofers. One aspect of the SW-8MK2's performance was even a slight improvement over the T-7 model: the accuracy of the tone and timbres of different bass instruments."
Pete, your room is too big for these to do what you want of them. Besides that they roll off too high up - there is not headroom in the degree of extension. My room is smaller than yours, and my semi modded vandy 2C into subs did not entirely do the trick filling bass in. Those have an 8" aura neo driver AND a 10" driver. I have a stronger set of 130+ oz 10" drivers to fit in if and when they are called on to work.
So I don't expect two 8" drivers to get you there. Not in such a big space. The drivers would have to be really powerful and have substantial Xmax that are rare in drivers costing less than $100 each at 8".
You can try those out without a great loss since the sale is quite a discount. So if you must then buy a pair with the expectation that you will either want to swap them for something bigger later on or that you will need to start stacking them with additional pairs to fill in the missing deep bass.
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