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In Reply to: RE: new MMG`s..... lots of questions posted by neolith on October 15, 2014 at 16:17:46
I think Magnepan has been selling used MMG's for years. The 60-day money-back guarantee program would provide a certain number of perfectly good speakers that could be resold as new.
Some companies might call these "factory refurbished" but I don't think Magnepan would have any problem selling them as "new."
Dave.
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directly from the factory about five or six years ago. Magnepan was very straightforward about it, and they offered them for $50 or $100 (I forget the exact amount) less than the price for a new pair, which at the time was $500. Mine were in perfect condition and came with a full warranty.
I don't know if Magnepan still offers the same discount on returned MMG's, but you could call them. A live person will answer the phone, a rarity!
I just bought a pair of "new" old MMGs. The person who owned them bought 2 sets of white MMG and one set of wall mount Magnapan speakers in 2009 and put them in storage and never opened them until advertising them on Craigslist just last week when I came by to check them out. I plan on powering them with a Kenwood Basic M2A and C1 or C2 preamp I have in my own storage. All tied into a full Kenwood discrete setup I use to power both my AV and stereo listening. They will be replacing a mint pair of Ohm Walsh 2 speakers that will go into another room. While I am wondering about the crossover issue I don't plan on doing anything on that unless I think it will actually improve something.
Call me naive but I disagree. OTOH Tom could call Magnepan with the serial number and find out the date of manufacture. In any case if they were used, Magnepan would have restored them to original condition (including the XO).
What are they doing with the speakers that are returned under that agreement? Stacking them in the corner of the warehouse and letting them collect dust? I don't think so.
They're perfectly good speakers that just need a quick check and can be resent out to another customer. I don't see anything wrong with that at all.
I suppose we could ask Wendell this question, but we'd probably get another lame-ass non-answer to a good question. :)
Cheers,
Dave.
Magnepan is certainly capable of qualifying the speakers and redressing anything which doesn't make muster. It would be a foolish business model to simply scrap the returned speakers. There's nothing dishonest about the practice; it's merely prudent and efficient.The only time when bits should get scrapped is following a product update, and then only those bits which have actually been altered need to be lost. If that's what they do, I salute them. Hell, it's the responsible thing to do, from many angles.
Edits: 10/15/14
How many MMG do you think are returned?
How many are sold as new?
I'll bet the returned %age is under 10%. Just a guess. Its not like they need a warehouse for all the returns.
And yes, selling as 'returned / b stock' would make sense. at a slight discount, perhaps.
Too much is never enough
LOL, Davey, here's the lighter side on "What are they doing with the speakers that are returned under that agreement? "
Huh! Are they not being sent to all those symphonic orchestras that wish to reinforce their string sections?
I think in a week or two the curiosity will get the best of me and I`ll open `em up. Wnat to give the stands a chance. I`ll surely post my findings. Maybe we`re looking at something totally new!
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