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In Reply to: RE: Well...were waiting...(Judge Smails from Caddyshack)... posted by Rte2Rider on July 15, 2014 at 13:39:23
RR,
They work just fine...mine are 42.5% into the room, (8'-4"), off the FW, 11-1/2", to the edge of the speaker off the side wall...listening position is 10'from speakers to ears, +/-....
Hope that helps...
thanks
Mark
Ps. I have a partial wall behind me, then open to the kitchen and dining...I have foyer to my left and hallway to my right, Sadie advised me to put my ears within these two alcoves, which really works well...do not know why, but it does...
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Mark: The discussion got a little sidetracked to one about bass panels (still very helpful). I assume that you are talking about "they" being your 3.7's?
Other topic... I am shifting some gear around. I have a power amp sitting on the floor between my 1.7s (possibly soon to be 3.7s?). I would like to move my (digital) front-end to a spot against the front wall (on a small stand). So, it would be behind, and to the side of, the amp. I don't think that this would be completely inadvisable but would welcome comments. I could move the front-end gear to the right side wall but then the gear would be in front of the right speaker.
Thanks to S-Cat and Satie for their comments about bass panels.
Behind my speakers are 4 silk fichus trees per channel at varying heights to break-up my back wave, cheap diffusion that makes a terrible front wall work...
The rack in front of one of your speakers...try it, see what you get...
I have a pair of 6 meter interconnects to get my rack on side wall in front of my speakers, it makes putting anything more than a loveseat in the listening space crowded, so I put my rack right in the middle between the two speakers, lower profile rack with 42" TV on top of that...definitely not ideal, but it works well...I did not notice any real change in what I was hearing??!!?? I asked a few on this board if I was nuts...I won't go to all the inmates that said "yes you are", but someone, (Sadie), said there can be nulls at the edge of speaker, this rack is mostly air, rack is 5'-6" long and the distance between speakers is 6'-6"...
The room and the set-up within that space to get optimum sound, is part of the fun for this hobby for me...
Good luck on your journey...the 3.7's are an easy recommendation...
thanks
Mark
Satie, How far from the side walls are your mains?
Mark, can you remind me how much toe in you prefer at this location?
One other comment on positioning. I have been able to find only two listening (seating) locations with extremely smooth bass in my current room. One is in exactly the spot predicted by the rule of thirds. With the chair at just under seven foot from the BW, the bass bumps and dips are clearly smoothed out. The other place in my room, is about two and a half feet from the back wall.
I have never noticed any negative impact of having the rear wall, which is totally untreated, this close to my ears. I tried treating once, and did find this had adverse effects.
At the area between 2.5 and 7 feet from BW, I get various dips and some extreme bumps. They are pleasant briefly for rock music, but prove irritating over time.
Currently no toe, perpendicular to the side wall...quick story...
I have been playing with locations and toe in over the last 6 months, keep coming back to Sadie's first location...it is really spooky when they snap into focus...
My listening position, can move 18" window back and fourth, when I am all the back to the partial wall, my ears are to the right of the partial wall, so 10' open behind my head...my right channel has been a little off, as the left channel is ever so slightly stronger...as I was measuring and trying to figure things out, I noticed the inside leg of Mye Audio stands, was about 3/4" askew on the right channel, I loosened the screws, made a slight shift...everything is fine now...
My point being that I heard, that minor shift before I ever saw it...to me that just screams how important that room location is...
As you have clearly stated, your distance off the front wall is all about trade offs and where you are willing to live with them...
thanks again for taking us on your journey...always interesting...
Mark
The bass panels are perpendicular to the "sidewalls" flush to them with the deep bass panel at the wall and the midbass panel in line with it in the middle. The mid and tweeter are about 7" closer to the Front Wall and separated from the bass panels with a wing covered by a fuzzy fabric. That maintains time alignment with the midbass when using 1st order XO. That leaves the tweeter roughly 4' from the sidewalls. Significantly further than ideal, but still no slouches in the Limage effect.
The bass panel arrangement is what magnepan suggests for Tympani in the split configuration, but I found it effective for all setups as it kicks up the deep bass very effectively if you recall my bass freq scan. Saves a boat load of power for the bass amps.
The "sidewalls" are a loaded bookcase row (9' long filled to the ceiling) and on the other side there is a gap in the bookcases for most of the workable Limage positions. That leaves about 15.5-16' of acoustic width.
Thx. Sounds like you are not too far off the back wall as well.
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/MUG/messages/21/211405.html
covered it in the post ref'd above.
Pretty much in the middle of the room.
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