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In Reply to: RE: Morrow posted by sbrians on January 23, 2012 at 16:53:00
sbrians:
Thanks for the detailed report on the Morrow cables. Today bought a used pair of Transparent Music Link Plus IC's that I will use between the pre and the cdp this will be replacing another pair of Transparent Music Link's. I like the Transparent's I was using, so hopefully these will be a step up.
Jim
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I popped in a tried and true CD, John Scofield's Flatout and it was a bit dodgy for the first couple of minutes, but settled down and I liked what I was hearing. More forceful, especially in the drums and the bass was tighter (taught). The more I listened the more they settled and it stepped up even more...the (drum) brush strokes were so clear as was the amazing cymbal work.
The next selection was Derek Truck's 2nd offering, Out of the Madness, that also features Warren Haynes. I was so impressed as everything just seemed bigger and I was hearing things that I haven't before, like in one song, Death Letter that features Warren and Derek on Dobro's and I can now hear Warren tapping out the time with his foot.
Warren's vocals were also vastly improved in its presence and feel. I will have to do some Fiona Apple, and a few other female vocals to see on that end.
I'm both happy and mad that I failed to believe that one needed to spend serious cabbage on cables, and that it took so long to get on board.
I may need to email Mike Morrow and upgrade my order with him to MA3 as originally planned.
Jim
Music is the best thing you can do legally that doesn't require a medical prescription!
I've noticed that over the years a given model of Transparents has improved a lot. The point being that old plus' will not be as good as newer plus'.
But in my limited experience, the MA3s are the sweet spot for value in Morrow's line (as someone had suggested to me) in my system and also in comparison to others w/ the 1/2 price offer. But they need more break in by far and change more than anything else that I have ever heard. Do not judge them when they are at their bad point in break in.
sbrians:
I've heard it both ways about the transparent. The dealer I got it from who is a long time transparent dealer, really likes what I got from him. This is from a dealer who routinely sells 100K+ reference systems and have no reason to not believe him.
My ears like it and I will toss some music in a little while.
BTW, I will have the MA1 within a reasonable time and will see if I like the signature of it, if so, I may just stay with it for the amp to pre run, or upgrade to the MA3. I have 60 days to decide.
I'm still eating some black bird pie for not believing that Cables were important and not a bunch of hooie and snake oil for all of these years.
Jim
Music is the best thing you can do legally that doesn't require a medical prescription!
You did good w/ the Transparent. In my main system I have Transparent, Morrow and Mapleshade as my best cables. I may also be using some Z-cable, but those are no longer made.
sbrians:
Thanks and I agree. I did a couple hours of critical listening yesterday and my 1st impressions were validated. I listened to Dire Straights, Brothers in Arms, as well as Kenny Burrell, Live at the Vanguard.
Dire Straights was a full on digital recording and it presented itself nice and warm and with nice air on the top end. Kenny Burrell is a bit drier, but it too was very nice. What is unusual about the Kenny Burrell,.Live at the Vanguard is the the stage placement. While Mr. Burrell is mostly on the left channel and the drums on the right, the base instead of being in the middle is actually to the left of Kenny and makes for an interesting soundstage. The middle does get filled up in an interesting manner.
The best way to describe the difference between the lesser Transparent Cable and the the one I just got is that there is a little more air on the top and it is much punchier in a good way. More detail comes out too.
Can't wait to get the Morrow to see where it takes it.
Jim
Music is the best thing you can do legally that doesn't require a medical prescription!
Mr jim
I'm still eating some black bird pie for not believing that Cables were important and not a bunch of hooie and snake oil for all of these years.
Well this tell a lot ...you get a pr of speakers...2.5r put them on Amps no one can own..i can go buy your amps...well the new one made by Vac..for even more$$$.. you talk like youv found the cabel for YOU...an that do it...lost in space an loves to type jim
your one man o-pine is just that ...an yes pass on my post i dont care for you eather ...No one can here what jim hears!BS is what i see goodluck.
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Music is the best thing you can do legally that doesn't require a medical prescription!
The Morrow Interconnects arrived yesterday and after 5 hours of listening to them I can honestly say they're real good. It is like the old BASF commerical, we don't make the music, we just make it better.
The biggest improvement was in the highs as they are more pinpoint and have an added element of sweetness. The bass is a bit less pronouced, but it feels right and is very fast and tight. The center is also a bit nicer and airy. I don't mean the midrange, I mean the center where the vocals and such lives...
If Dawnrazor is correct, in that they're from Magnet Wire, I'm a convert.
Jim
Music is the best thing you can do legally that doesn't require a medical prescription!
Under the category of stupid. I had them running in the wrong direction and even with that, they were superior to the DIY pure silver IC's they replaced.
Tonight with them in the correct path direction I listened to AJA, by Steely Dan, and Hot Rats, by Frank Zappa. These are two CD's that I'm very familiar with. Steely Dan was one of the best recorded bands in the 70's and this was very evident today. I wasn't hearing anything new, but in a better way. Same goes for Frank Zappa, i.e., well recorded and mastered.
Before, I noted that the bass was a bit shy, it is all there and very fast, taught and with ample weight. The highs are still sweet and with a nice roundness. What really came to life was the mids which are more dynamic and with increased depth. Much more pleasing and transparent. Everything just seems nicer with them.
Mike Morrow is a true gentleman who took the time to personally answer all of my questions, no matter how inane they were. This was on a purchase of a pair of highly discounted cables no less. I would recommend his Interconnects without hesitation.
Jim
Music is the best thing you can do legally that doesn't require a medical prescription!
His ICs are not magwire but what seems to be multiple runs of wrap wire (probably 30 gauge) His Ma1 appear to be a version of the Jon Risch DIY cable - made from one run per channel.
Satie:
Interesting, in any event, I really like them and at this moment, see no need to opt for more expensive IC's. I will have to check out the Jon Risch DIY's.
Thanks,
Jim
Music is the best thing you can do legally that doesn't require a medical prescription!
Okay, I googled Jon Risch DIY and see that he says to use Belden wire that has been prepped. The only way to know exactly what Mike Morrow is doing would be to dissect his cable.
Again, the MA1 sounds good in my system and is very dynamic and transparent.
Jim
Music is the best thing you can do legally that doesn't require a medical prescription!
I was not talking about that Belden cable project but his 1" ribbon of 2 wires on a strip of tape, unless I am confusing him with someone else.
Satie:
Didn't see that one, I can tell you, it isn't wire on tape though and it is more than one run, it is two runs of wire. I haven't bought in to the notion that more wraps of wire for IC's is necessary or will sound any better. I'm probably wrong and in due time will upgrade and see, but right now, I'm liking what the entry level MA-1's are giving me.
Jim
Music is the best thing you can do legally that doesn't require a medical prescription!
More runs let you pass more deep bass, since you use a sub it is not important that you get minor attenuation of lower bass dynamics since you would just notch up your sub slightly.
I have never seen a Morrow cable opened up so I can't say with certainty.
Satie:
I did notice them to be a bit bass light at first, but that was when I had them running from the amps to the pre. I do like the dynamics and the subtitles that they flesh out.
Jim
Music is the best thing you can do legally that doesn't require a medical prescription!
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