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I'd rather have more rigid stands and less rigid opinions; but to me...stands are a great tweak. Keep my 3.6's from blowin' in the wind.
Sh*t, I had to google on Gwen Sefani to find out her name is really Gwen Stefani and I still didn't know who she was (Ok I don't go to the movies or listen to rock, hip-hop or for that matter most music written afer 1910 except for jazz). Any case even women can get hernias and Maggie needs support.
> (Ok I don't go to the movies or listen to rock, hip-hop or for that matter most music written afer 1910 except for jazz). <
Except for the rap part, that is REALLY sad.
To each his own I guess. I can listen to just about anything of substance, but then again, that's a subjective call too. If you like it, that's all that matters to your ears...;-}}
> > Any case even women can get hernias and Maggie needs support < <
heh...heh...heh...I don't think Gwen needs a truss.
can use a boob job every now and then:)
Gwen's ok in my book though!
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What's more Jim you laid out a pretty all encompassing statement without explaining why or how you even came to that conclusion. In any case Andy is correct, as a proper stand makes a world of difference to any maggie and height for heights sake is not a bonus.
It depends wot you mean by "stands", Jim!
If you mean "something that lifts them off the ground" (like a box speaker stand lifts it off the ground) ... then I would agree.
If you mean something that locks them rigidly in place (with at least one pair of angled struts fixed at 2/3rds of the way up the panel) then you are kidding yourself if you think this won't make a difference.
There are no hard and fast rules. It depends on your listening invironment. I have hard wood floors and find that my MMGs sound better without stands.
Maybe I'm missing something. Did you already have them on good quality stands and then make the decision that they sounded better without them. Which stands did you test, and what qualities did the MMGs display on the stock stands that made them superior to after market ones? Better bass? Better soundstage? How do you have the maggies set up in your room? Not trying to fan a controversy, I'm just trying to understand your analytical approach.
What impact do you believe the floors have on the panel vibration? (Which is what I think the stands mainly address.)
I've found a bit of mid-bass boom in MMGs on carpet. However, hardwood floors seem to remidy that frequency response anolomy.
Not sure what you're implying here? While the vibration of flexing wooden floors on the Maggie panel will certainly be reduced by using Mye stands, the stands also do good if you have a concrete slab.
IMO, this is because they lock the panels rigidly in the vertical plane ... so they don't sway back and forth (however minutely!) when transients occur. :-))
Jim seemed to be suggesting that the wooden floors had something to do with not needing stands. I fully agree with your point Andy that the panels will rock no matter what the flooring happens to be and was just interested in why Jim thought that wooden floors were important.
Mebbe the stands you cooked up really didn't do any good - ie. their design was not up to scratch?
I'll bet Mye stands would improve their sound, whether on wooden floors or concrete floors.
Does Grant have a "money back if you ain't satisfied" deal (apart from shipping costs, of course)?
I don't believe Grant has a money back guaranty. He's got a small cottage industry with these stands, which are only built on order. If he takes one back he may not be able to resell it as new, and would therefore have to take a loss. It's not like he's shipping 100 stands a week. This is a labor intensive job and the steel probably costs him much more than if he had a large manufacturing company. This is his second job.
unless Jim has an open enough mind and is prepared to experiment, he'll miss out on this simple improvement to his Maggies!
In this case, it looks like his mind is closed.
Sometimes you just have to take a chance.
I knew the stock stands on my 1.6's were rather cude and flimsy. I've always (well almost always) been an advocate of making speakers as rigidly supported as possible and coupled to the floor via spikes. I read all the reviews on Grant's site and many comments on forums such as this. I reasoned that a rigid stand, if nothing else, would be a firmer foundation for such a tall thin panel. But, the Myes met all my expectations and then some.
Thanks for understanding. Let's just say I make less money than the shipping cost to return a pair. I sell about 12-15 pairs a month.
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