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For the record I am 67. Retired, and doing good enough. No illnesses I know of (but I have not seen a doctor in ten years. (My Father never saw a doctor in his life. Except twice when at deaths door... And he lived to be 89 years old). Nor am I taking any pills for anything, except once in a blue moon a multivitamin, particularly for the B vitamins...I ask this question about how do you feel you are doing.. I find I compare folks who are famous who recently died, and check their age.
Thinking, they did OK. Or, they died pretty early. Cancer, drug overdose, and an accident seem to be the main killers of the younger than 50.((Added: I forgot about getting shot dead, but that seems to be a odd phenomenon of inner cities more than average causes)If I died today, I would look back (if such is possible) and say no problem, I had a decent life.
So I ask the rabble*.. What is your opinion on your age and health?
*(and if you are not rabble, you too can answer anyway. No problem)
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I guess partly age and partly Aussie sun, I'm getting to look old now. My skin is losing its elasticity and the back of my hands are getting that crepe papery look and feel about them.
Otherwise, I'm racing C grade at the cycle club. Feeling pretty fit.
Mentally, I'm definitely starting to forget shit. I used to pride myself on remembering everything. I can't do that now :-(
Cutting back on alcohol is the thing this year so far. Drinking much less of everything and feeling better for it. Hopefully the lower alcohol input will help save a few braincells!
Cheers,
John K
Not taking "pills" is key to a long life.
I've been 58 for two months and feel no older than two months ago when I was 57.My high blood pressure was discovered when I was in college and has been under control since with meds.
I have an anxiety disorder, a pre-ulcerous condition that has been going on for years and spinal stenosis.The spinal stenosis was only discovered recently when I was unable to get horizontal (sleep in a bed) for over a month.
I will soon have a second MRI, with dye (via spinal tap, for a higher resolution scan) and then possibly corrective surgery.Yet, at 58, I don't wear glasses, not even for reading. This greatly upsets my optometrist. I'm his eldest patient without glasses.
If I do live a long life I will have to work until the end of it, dig my own grave and dive in. There is no retirement in my future.
Other than the health issues, which are easily dealt with, and the financial challenges (a bit tougher to deal with), life is pretty damn good.
I've got two great kids, a ton of fond memories and am happy more often than not.As Joe Walsh said... Life's been good to me so far.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
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work my ass off and am very productive, never was ambitious and the thought of "retirement" has always been absurd to me. I keep a low stress profile and don't worry much about stuff. Some people might look at my life and think failure (no house, no successful "career", no car, no portfolio, no kids, none of the trappings of what many seem to think is important).
I live in the moment, and that moment is usually rich, entertaining and enjoyable.
My life is full of love, my wife, humour, fine people, great food, good books, great music, great movies, and them damn cats.
My knees are sore and my eyesight faulty.
I'm happy to be alive and enjoy living.
Don't know what will kill me or when but I'm sure not going to worry about it.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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I have lots of emotional issues that have had me on disability for years. I'm a hot mess in most ways, but I keep on chuggin' regardless. Physical health is fair at best, though I do feel marginally better since I cut out the booze. I turn 50 next month and, despite many reservations and feelings of inadequacy about where I am in life right now, I'm having a birthday party for myself, with about 10 close friends and relatives set to attend. I didn't think I'd make it past 30, to be frank, but now I've outlasted both parents, numerous relatives, and several younger friends. I'm not sure if I'll make it much longer at the rate I'm going, but who knows? I may surprise even myself! The fact that I've almost made it half a century is cause enough for SOME celebration.
This is a public service announcement . . . WITH GUITARS!!!
...get a red sports car or a new younger girlfriend.
The roads out here suck, so a fancy car is kinda pointless (IMO) . . . and as far as different female companionship goes, I actually love my wife, so there goes that idea! :)
This is a public service announcement . . . WITH GUITARS!!!
Sounds like you're doing OK to me!
Cheers,
John K
May I suggest you guys move to NYC? AF Hall, Carnegie, The MET, MOMA , Peter Luger, US Open Tennis to name a few.
Cheers
Bill
Born and raised in NYC, Bill. Spent 30 years there, in fact. Loved it for a long time, and still miss quite a few aspects of it, but when my mom died in '97, there wasn't much left there for me.
I visited/attended all the places you mentioned--numerous times. Some nice memories, especially a couple of birthday celebrations at Luger's.
Do you live in Manhattan proper?
This is a public service announcement . . . WITH GUITARS!!!
I do when I am in NY. Stayed in Brooklyn and Queens before. I remember your old post 5 years back wanting to return to NYC. I would say once a New Yorker always a New Yorker at heart. Exciting things like Mike Wallace waiting to take home parcelled Meat Loaf, Serena Williams on line for a burger at Serendipity, M Ali signing autographs in the lobby of Park Av Hilton. And of course the lawn of Central Park for Shakespeare, Simon and Garf, Barbra S and all that Jazz.
Wish you all the best
Bill
Grazing is new for me but looking back, that is how I ate as a youngster.
Hill climbing is something I've been trying lately.
and be reminds me of this dude:
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"E Burres Stigano?"
I was always fit.
Somewhat athletic as a kid, I think I still am the Ohio State White Boy record holder in the Long Jump. Ran distance for recreation before Frank Shorter made it fashinable and continued Jogging daily and competing at 10,000 meters well into middle age.
When an Achilles became chronically painful at 45 I switched to road biking and then with my move here to Asheville 8 years ago to Mt. Biking.
My second career as a kitchen designer and cabinet thrower also kept me active at work.
Two and a half years ago pain sent me to a neurologist. I learned my Lumbar Spine was trashed (Stenosis)and I'd soon be a candidate for a hip replacement (osteo-arthritis). Over a very few months I became a Couch Dweller and pain med taker.
Now I'm fat, unemployed, miserable, and waiting around to die.
Sorry, you asked.
look up Tumeric,I eat 2000mg of tumeric a day to deal with a severe pain in my skull. I think my brain is too large for my skull.
1000mg once a day is good to start out with.
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Ditto if he's on blood thinners.
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"E Burres Stigano?"
How we carry ourselves throughout the day goes far toward health and longevity. People with humor and ready smiles deal with life with lower stress. The happiness factor. The migraine crowd is going uphill.
You say: "People with humor and ready smiles deal with life with lower stress."
While I will not disagree with that statement, one could also say that those who have lower stress in their lives tend to have more humor and smiles.
I get your point, but you're eliminating choice, saying that character is just a matter of happenstance. I think there's a larger perspective, but I can't prove you wrong.
Dumb yourself down, legal cannabis! If that is not available fluoridated tap water will do.
If that doesn't work, try TV.
Or you could lower yourself to have sex, if that doesn't work you can have some morphine and go into hospice.
Beware of the light though, that'll take you away.
I'm too dumb to argue the point. But you don't fool me. You're having too much fun.
McKenna said it best, it is all a cosmic giggle.
I agree with those that have said that genetics are the key. I do not have good genes, my father died at 62, and my grandfather passed away at 48.
I have a laundry list of health problems, and I have for about 30 years now.
I still work full time, but there is no question that I am not in good shape for my age. I certainly did not fare well in the gene pool lottery.
While I do not have a death wish, I am also not afraid to die. It's gonna happen to us all. My best days are definitely behind me now.
I can no longer eat what I want, drink what I want, or behave like I want to anymore.
Been married 33 years now, and the wife is a wonderful person.
The thrill has been gone for decades now however, and as Meatloaf says, we are now just waiting for end of time.
Trying to stay active to make up for bad eating habits. Trying to read more but the internets are interfering. Part time oil and gas consulting work keeps the mind, or whats left of it, sharp. Loved ones have serious health issues so there's that. Like most of us, I worry about hardware and software disposition should I suddenly croak.
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"E Burres Stigano?"
I'm about to hit 40.
I don't need to be here anymore, but I continue to wake up.
Probably one reason they keep me around is I'm a good source of Tax revenue.
you continue to post.
Ah yes, you ARE a contributor.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...I think health and aging is about 75% in your genes.Of course I think I'm doing better than most people my age but then so do a lot of people my age (69).
I have osteoarthritis and ulcerative colitis which are both managed pretty well.
That 25% you have control of is important - I have been exercising regularly as long as I can remember (3 days a week at the gym now), taking vitamins/supplements (although I question their benefit), drinking moderately and eating healthy (except on the weekends). And I'm still running my business and working about 3-1/2 days a week.
Cardio exercise increases blood flow to your brain and the wight lifting helps maintain muscle tone and strength - you lose 30% of your muscle strength by age 70 if you don't exercise.
I work with mainly seniors and I see sharp and mobile 100 yr olds aa well as 70 year olds who look and act they're over 90.
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Here's an interesting article about longevity, genes, and lifestyle. If you're younger, below 75, lifestyle matters more. If you're older 85 or so it's genetics.
I'm glad to be here. Not that old yet, but not taking anything for granted.
What puzzles me are people who are 75, drink alcohol nightly, eat whatever they want, don't get hardly any exercise, and are only on cholesterol medicine. WTF?!
My Grandpa smoked a pipe and cigars, and he died of old age at 90-something.
I think genes has a lot to do with it.
Anyway, if you're 67 and haven't been to a doctor in ten years, you're playin' with fire.
BTW, since you asked, I'm fine. 'Course I could have a stroke tonight (but not likely, given my last eval), or get hit by a truck or a public transportation vehicle tomorrow, or be dumb enough to be on the road at 3 AM.
:)
Well, the inmate with the math monikor (who started this thread) deleted their reply post. But, in the meantime, I had made dinner and watched "Shark Tank", which is an excellent program. So, when I finally got around to posting my reply, he/she had deleted his/her message.
But since I went to the effort of writing a reply, here it is. It begins with a quote from the OP:
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"I have no problem with folks who love doctors.
Just do not say I have to have the same opinion!
Even your own post mentions how odd it is about some folks who try hard to destroy themselves living to 90, and others who do everything right dying from whatever at 30. "
You're imagining at least some of that. And, I didn't write anything about:
"others who do everything right dying from whatever at 30"
So, coming back to reality, and I'm certainly not telling you what to do, it would be an excellent idea, at your age, to go get a full physical, and then follow up with whatever tests the Internal Medicine doctor recommends.
Good luck!
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I haven't been to a medical doctor in over 10 years either (I'm 58), but I do make semiannual visits to the dentist and annually to the optometrist. I might drop dead tomorrow, but as far as I know I'm in good health.
But that reminds me that I need to get disposition of the audio system written into the will or my wife will sell it for $100 not knowing any better. :)
With a concentration in Medieval Europe. Perhaps the most important lesson I took away from my studies is this: we are so much better off than our ancestors that we're almost a different species. And you don't have to go all the way back to the Dark Ages to see this difference. Take a look at your family tree from the 19th century, and I bet you'll see the same thing I see in mine: significant infant mortality; rampant disease; people routinely widowed in their 40s. My grandfather died of diphtheria at age 45. Nobody dies of diphtheria anymore.
So if you put it in context, I'm doing spectacularly well at age 60. And I bet the rest of you are too.
Happy listening,
Jim
"The passage of my life is measured out in shirts."
- Brian Eno
Many years ago as a young guy (currently 52 and everybody guesses I'm in my mid 40's for the OP), my dentist told me how before dentists, many people passed due to dental diseases, including causing issues mistaken as witchery, etc. We do have it good compared to not that many years ago is right!
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