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In Reply to: RE: After mid 1942 on maybe, not before. posted by Timbo in Oz on February 09, 2017 at 16:38:57
Is the Czech made Skoda 47mm AT gun was about the only thing that could successfully penetrate many of the heavy French armored tanks. During the Invasion of France, 1940.The German 37mm gained the rep of being the "door knocker." Rounds just bounced off the same armored tanks.
The Skoda 47mm was hurriedly lashed-up to half-tracks and open top mobile AT tanks. Served through early stages of Barbarossa. Until the long 75mm AT could be implemented.
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Because it was quite capable against the mass of French tanks, there weren't many Char B1 Bis, and not many Somuas either.The 3.7cm was replaced by the 5cm PAK38 a/tk gun during 1941, which could cope with a T34 under 500Ms with solid shot, but not a KV1 until about 200ms.
Yes, the 7.5cm PAk40 did eventually came along in late 1941, a scaled up 5cm mostly. The Armies in Russia were still not well equipped with them until late 1942, Panzer divisions and the Waffen SS getting them first. PAK38 remained in service throughout WWII.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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I had forgotten that one. They looked weird, a long muzzle braked gun on a carriage with cart wheels, and 180 deg. traverse.They were never used in North Africa, which is germane - ;-) - to the issues around the 2pdr. And, they were never fitted to German tanks.
Tank guns (and A/tk guns used in them) is where we are at.
JBTWay in reading one of the pages the book you have found claims that the Aussie Matilda IIs with 2pdrs did fire explosive shell. But, most of the authorities on this state that the HE shell was never mfd in quantity.
Japanese bunker systems were hard to deal with until tanks were available. And I'd have preferred a Matilda to a Sherman for that job.
A 2pdr firing solid shot would be very good at firing into bunker slits, HV round flat trajectory ...., likely better at that than the 3" howitzer.
Once the slit was opened up though?! Ouch!!! 'Pick and shovel' was what the technique was called by tank crews throughout SEA and the Pacific. Shermans or Matildas. You use mortars / artillery firing HE with super-quick fuses to clear the foliage etc from the bunker, so you can see the slit/s. Then use shot to open up the slit, and then just one HE round. Medium arty usually has too much dispersion to pin-point a heavy round on to a bunker, waste of ammo trying.
IME your own Bn's mortars are good enough IF you have the right fuses.
I would not be surprised if these Aussie SPac. tank units had a higher proportion of Matilda IIs with the 3" howitzer, than the Matilda units in the Middle East, or in France in 1940.
Bunker busting takes a while, until it becomes a known drill, but saves on infantry, which I support ;-)!, and attacks don't get bogged down.
Part of the drill is to map the mutual support aspect of a given bunker system. And, reduce those bunkers that are links - before knocking out the remaining and isolated bunkers. This applies no matter what weapon systems you have / don't have.
A perfect bunker system is theoretically possible and Asians tend to be good at them.
:-)
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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