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In Reply to: RE: A WebMD glance.... posted by JURB on December 08, 2016 at 03:53:46
JURB,
Thanks for the response. I am a believer in "you are what you eat"
This is some valuable info. It does make sense- the magic is in the broth.
Follow Ups:
" Osteoarthritis Symptoms Improved by Glycine.pdf" Published evidence shows "anti inflammatory" action of glycine in certain situations, can be found on PUBMED. T456
" Knowledge is a deadly friend
If no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools." From the pen of the Crimson King
twaeker455-
Thanks for the info. I can't read ENOUGH on possible relief.
24-7 PAIN really is exhausting mentally besides the obvious physical discomfort.
My specialist years ago advised me of the only known treatment, which is ridiculously invasive surgery. The outcome is SHORTER LENGTH arms from removing the damaged pieces,the surrounding bone structure "falls" into the void also resulting in limited range of motion. I'm leaving out details but that's my option at this point. No amazing stem cell technology or whatever is on the horizon.
Since all the cartilage in these areas are gone, I'm basically screwed. I can do most things, I just have limits with varying degrees of pain. My guitar playing and physical hobbies-cycling/skiing have time limits due to discomfort.
How does this area look? On bad days, the inflammation looks like I have a quartet slice of a ping pong ball sunk into my wrists! Picture a normal range of motion of a limp wrist. About 90 degress? I have about 30.
Oh well, when I plop a favorite record on the table, temporary relief from both the tinnitus and arthritis. We grit our teeth/smile and be greatful things aren't worse as others.
I do have a craving for a fabulous chicken soup, as JURB has recomended.
"Coenzyme Q10 Ameliorates Pain and Cartilage Degradation in a Rat Model of Osteoarthritis by Regulating Nitric Oxide and Inflammatory Cytokines" Looks like COQ10 may also reduce IL-6
" Knowledge is a deadly friend
If no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools." From the pen of the Crimson King
Well DV, you should have gotten to me 30 years ago. IL-6 is a bad guy in many inflammatory conditions according to research. This includes osteoarthritis and maybe pain. I suggest considering the use of a Vit K complex with K1 and MK2 and MK4. Evidence points to it being a IL-6 lowering agent. I will soon be switching from the rather expensive LEF product to the product below. Vit D3 also... You have to look into the blood viscosity thing with Vit. K use to make sure your doctor ok's it since you have had a stroke...Vitacost Ultra Vitamin K with Advanced K2 Complex -- 90 Softgels
" Knowledge is a deadly friend
If no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools." From the pen of the Crimson King
Edits: 12/08/16
Yo DV, sorry to hear that your wrists are so far gone. Lots of stuff on supposed pain relief and for the reduction of inflammation. I could go on forever. Actually there is evidence that music is pain relieving under some circumstances. You might look into melatonin, 5HTP, ginger, bosswella, opium, weed... if you already haven't. Stay from the news. T456
" Knowledge is a deadly friend
If no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools." From the pen of the Crimson King
Tweaker456-
You're knowledge/suggestions are greatfully appreciated.
Yeah, I incorporate natural pain relieve to take the edge off.
"Stray from the news"
No kidding! Constant reminder we are in Supermans "bizarro" world now.
The VitK thing is interesting. Something to discuss with the primary Dr. Otherwise, overall good health and a supportive S.O. help keep perspective.
As long as the table is spinning with a clean record, I'm good!
The "magic" that's in the broth is or maybe glycine. It's amazing that someone would bring this up now because I've just looked into this and have started on 10g of glycine a day. Glycine supposedly offsets the negative effects of too much methionine in a muscle meat based diet. It is considered to be anti inflammatory. Dr. Joel Brine thinks it is a or the big screw up in our diets that is responsible for much of the inflammatory disease out there. It seems to me that the amount of auto immune and inflammatory disease out there is off the scale. Joel Brind has a video about his take on the subject. " Video) Dr. Joel Brind about the role of glycine in regulating inflammation"
" Knowledge is a deadly friend
If no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools." From the pen of the Crimson King
Edits: 12/08/16
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