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In Reply to: RE: They all llok good. Problem is .. in a crash. I will take any modern car in a crash over any 60's bucket posted by Smelly_Socks on September 20, 2016 at 09:38:45
Old muscle cars; great straight line performance available. Newer muscle cars; many are much quicker than the majority of muscle cars from back then.
Handling in old cars; well, they don't.
Old have very few amenities (AC, PW, PL...). Although I don't need an LCD screen or the like, I do want AC and power "stuff" for my cars.
Safety in old cars is nowhere near that of modern cars (air bags, crash/crumple zones...).
Comfort of new cars kills that of old.
Although not a concern for the miles I put on my DD TBH (I get 15.9MPG where/the way I drive), newer cars with equal performance get much better mileage.
Morning starts... well, let's just say I've had many carbs (and rebuilt a few times also).
I considered a muscle car when buying my Z a couple years back, until I really looked at them. Nope, just can't do it. Old cars are "neat", but for the most part just don't appeal to me anymore.
I'll keep this or similar.
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There is no comparison, in performance and safety. But, a well-restored, nostalgic 1960 car would be nice. A friend and I are still thinking about doing an upgraded Falcon sleeper car. 260ci V-8. With modern electronic ignition. Discs all around. Coil over, 4-wheel independent suspension.Kinda like the link modded one.
Edits: 09/20/16
Hell,a 2007 Cadillac STS can blow away a late 80s Porsche as far as that goes..These cars are American history just like a piece of vintage audio gear.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
mt
That particular car isn't my taste, but if you do old cars right they can turn out nice. Right to me means gutting (completely!) the interior, upgrading to modern drivetrain front to back, etc.
Your sleeper would be neat, but will take a ton of work, a bigger ton of money (wait, a ton is a ton, no? :)), and will still get killed by most modern performance cars.
But, maybe that's not so important. Just have fun... that's the key.
Had a 2002Ti back in college. Absolute blast to drive. Twin Weber side draft carbs, 9.3:1 comp ratio, race cam. Lots of Alpina goodies. One day.
My only digitized photo of car...
I love them! Never had one, maybe never will, but they are beyond cool to me.
Cheers,
John K
Wow! My first car after college was a 1972 BMW 2002, color: Agave -dark green- std. I converted it to ti with twin sidedraft 40 dcoe webers and 3/4 camshaft -whatever that was- and the most amazing thing was its sound! What a ride. It was stolen in 1976.
I still look into these model sales but they are not in very good condition. And I believe that the factory ti model was equiped with Solex sidedraft carburators.
I still have mine.
8^)
I'm just not into foreign cars.I like old American Muscle.You've been in Calif too long Steve. lOL
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
One of the first affordable sports sedans.IFS and IRS, 4 wheel discs, great engine block which became an F1 icon in the turbo era.
What's not to like?
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Edits: 09/20/16
He only worked on BMWs and Porsches. Got me hooked many, many moons ago. He's from Germany. Complete and precise about all fixes. Even fixing his driveway.
8^)
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