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In Reply to: RE: Supply and demand posted by Awe-d-o-file on July 22, 2016 at 09:43:22
...we have become a corporatocracy - the interests of businesses run the country.
Why not have immigration reform, work visas and a path to citizenship?
These are hard working people who want a better life for themselves and their families and are willing to do jobs Americans won't.
There is a bill in Congress but one party is blocking it.
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"These are hard working people who want a better life for themselves and their families and are willing to do jobs Americans won't."That is half true (the first part) and half bullshit ("jobs Americans won't"). "Jobs Americans won't do" is a left-wing bullshit political line intended to make people more sympathetic to allowing people to enter and stay in the U.S. illegally.
As a teenager, I swept up broken bottles in the bottling room at a Coca-Cola plant. Once I swept up the glass and took it to the trash barrel, I'd hose down the entire room.
Another job was to shovel scrap wood at a furniture manufacturing factory, load it onto a flatbed truck and shovel it into "the hogger" which turned it into sawdust which was used to help heat the buildings.
Another job I had was to get up at 5:30 am and go to a local nightclub to clean the restrooms and wet-clean the entire nightclub floor which had beer spilled all over it. The place reeked of beer.
Another job I had to mow the lawn at the local Army Reserve training center.
Another job I had was to wash dishes at the college cafeteria, and to bus tables and wash dishes at a steakhouse.
These were all before I was even 20.
I currently have a teenage neighbor who works the warehouse and stocks shelves at the grocery store, and a friend who does construction work, and know a guy who used to be a bricklayer.
When I did commercial sound installations (schools, office buildings, factories, etc.), there wasn't an illegal person in sight doing drywall, flooring, tile work, etc.
So stop it with the nonsensical leftwing false notion that Americans won't do such jobs and so we "need" illegals to do them. It's a load of poppycock.
The United States has an immigration system which basically involves applying for a work visa and waiting to be approved. Illegally sneaking across our border, getting a fake Social Security number, etc. is not "immigration".
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...not true.Things are different today - this is not the 1950s and '60s that the right wants to take us back to.
Yeah, I got up at 5:30am for a paper route and was a bus boy washing dishes in a hot kitchen at a restaurant in high school but I don't see kids doing that kind of menial work today.
I advertised a part-time inventory stocking job a few months ago at a junior college for $10 an hour and got no responses.
And who is going to pick your lettuce and strawberries? Dig your ditches? Clean your fish? Mow your lawn?
You may have anecdotes but that is not the reality.
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... really does seems to have gotten worse. Started in the 1970's when it became "uncool" for kids to take menial jobs. But truly becoming a problem during and after the yuppie hi-tech era of the 1980's and 1990's.After the advent of video games and the hi-tech boom, kids wanted to sit inside, look at video screens, and tap with fingertips. And they are noticeably more lazy and obese than kids pre-1980 or so.
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...I blame Baby Boomer parents like my wife and I who didn't make our kids work while they were in high school.
They hardly had any responsibilities around the house.
No wonder they feel entitled.
In today's competitive world, some parents try hard to give kids an advantage through structured extra-curricular pursuits, from pre-school right on up and out. Working takes time away that. Can't bag groceries if your playing sports, taking flute lessons, and getting ready for the school play.
So what's next? Automated/remote-controlled butt-wipers for our test-tube babies?
Like all immigrant families have, it would be a simple thing to include these people, mostly doing the menial work "Americans" don't want, So you have to ask why it hasn't happened? I think the truth is just garden variety racism,
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