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In Reply to: RE: Anyone here get suckered by VW? posted by LWR on September 22, 2015 at 12:59:38
Hey, its not a safety issue its a EPA. issue.
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is a screwing at resale time. I never said anything about safety.
And what the resale Value from new of a 2 year old Focus?
Really bad!
I do not need the resale value and will, when I get rid of it, donate it to charity for a write off of my choosing. I pay cash for cars and have no interest pymts to consider as cost/
The wife just donated her Cherokee and has her new toy on order. It will be a fun car without a doubt...
A car's value, for myself, is purely the fun factor. I could not care less about mileage, emissions, hybrids, or resale value or lack of. What matters is grins per mile.
What about the million other Focus owners who Can NOT afford the loss? Who Do NOT itemize? And who need to replace it?
Too much is never enough
is it you really are having difficulty saying? Am I supposed to give a shit about them people? Why exactly should I? If folks find themselves in a position of loss, they would find it with ANY car they bought, used and sold.
Well, you are at least consistent. completely unmoved by the huge (paper) losses of VW owners.
And frankly, I'm not overly concerned, either.
That YOU can afford to give away an auto is OK with me. But most others will be forced to either use up all the value in a car (wear it out) or use it in trade.
Some cars hold value much better than others. It is an aside, but you can purchase some very high end cars which are still good and maybe only 5 to 8 years old, still with plenty of life left in 'em for bargain prices. The reason? Lack of 'features' which are now common. Backup cameras and bluetooth are everywhere. As are a bunch of other features like car computers / displays.
Too much is never enough
is more worthy to me than a pittance trade in. Always has been, always will be.
Until at some point you no longer itemize.
Too much is never enough
I pay as little as I am allowed by law to pay. With my new biz and expenses up the wazoo I will be itemizing until the IRA is destroyed...
What ever makes you happy.
An old joke ( the punch line ), He's going to focus, WHAT, BOFUS.
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Unless someone bought a vw diesel because of the cleanliness of its emissions, there isnt much harm. Most people buy them for the mpg and the ergonomics and the way they drive. Unless they can't pass the California smog test, I don't think they lose resale value.
is not an ideal way to think about one's car.
The epa is going to require a recall to make the cars meet specs. They'll have less power and eat more fuel.
Eee-Pee-Aay. Did you forget what it means? :)How does making them meet the VW-stated specs, and the required specs, "hurt" what the EPA is mandated to do? They are exercising their mandate, a function most Americans are probably quite glad to see happen (I speculate...) when the government actually does it properly.
It will hurt customers, sure. I suppose because you mean the actual/real-life specs of the car are not what they are said to be. But anybody who actually bought a diesel because they thought they were "greener" is going to be disappointed. So their feelings/green "pride" etc. will be hurt, and their wallets.
I have regularly heard all sorts of BS about why more diesels aren't sold "over here" compared to in Europe. The correct answer is because Europe has very lax emission requirements, which most diesels will not meet over here. It realy has nothing to do with "cleaner fuel" over there like some say, the same cars still wouldn't pass over here, even with their own European diesel fuel. Companies like MB invested a lot of $$ to make some of their diesels acceptable here. VW took a shortcut. Like I said below, many companies "design to the test", the way some teachers teach. Hard to blame them, but shortcuts aka cheating is a different matter.
Edits: 09/22/15
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